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"but modern authentication tools have existed for a while now and it's time everyone learned to use them" It's a nice thought, but overall computer literacy is
by jzb 4y ago
"but modern authentication tools have existed for a while now and it's time everyone learned to use them"
It's a nice thought, but overall computer literacy is still highly varied, and it likely will be for a very long time.
We still have a large percentage of users who use computers sparingly and by rote. I have family members who need a lot of help to do day to day setups and are going to have a hard time with MFA devices or apps.
"Other people could have an old phone registered as well if they don't want to buy a security key. It's a very minor hassle to set up and I can't see why people can't do it."
Minor hassle for you. Major hassle for a lot of users. Try real hard to put yourself in the place of a 77-year-old user who has limited sight and only needs to use a computer to accomplish very specific tasks - and has zero interest in doing more than basic email, banking, and a few other things that can only be done online. They have a smartphone only because it's a connection to their grandkids.
Because of the smartphone they're saddled with a Google or Apple ID that they'd otherwise never bother with. A TOTP app or YubiKey? That's well outside their comfort zone.
This isn't because these users are dumb. But the assumption that "it's time everyone learned" is based on the idea that everybody is using computers regularly and has resources for educating them - which is simply not true.
My kids, my wife, and my in-laws all use computers very differently than I do and it's extremely educational how people outside the industry see and use computers.
My 17-year-old only uses a Chromebook for school (grudgingly) and would rather do everything on their phone. My wife is fairly computer savvy, but still hits roadblocks. (She does enjoy forwarding me screenshots of particularly bad Phishing attempts...) And my older in-laws occupy most of their time far, far away from their computer. Singular.
Anyway - it'd be lovely if folks had way more empathy for the huge swaths of people who have less experience with computers. It's not the priority for them that you imagine that it should be.
- roxgib 4y agoScammers and thieves don't care that you're old and scared of computers. Even if you don't think someone is going to want to bother hacking your email or instagram, surely we can all agree that online banks needs to be as secure as possible? I have trouble believing that someone can be literate yet unable to download Google Authenticator and scan a QR code if they really need to. It's just not asking that much. Someone with accessibility issues will no doubt find it harder, but everyone else is going to need a much better excuse. These are exactly the people that are most vulnerable to being robbed. It shouldn't be up to these users anyway, a bank can and should insist on MFA. I think you'll find most people will figure it out just find once they don't have a choice.
- canadaduane 4y ago> It shouldn't be up to these users anyway, a bank can and should insist on MFA. What kind of MFA?
- jzb 4y ago"I have trouble believing that someone can be literate yet" Several things here: 1) Perfectly literate people can be computer illiterate for many reasons. That you have trouble accepting this doesn't make it not true. 2) Some people aren't literate or are only semi-literate. Many years ago I worked at a bank for about a year, and the bank served a lot of farmers - some of whom had not complete their education and were functionally illiterate. Some of those folks are probably still alive and no more literate than they were then. 3) Some people are perfectly literate in one language, but not fluent in English and user education materials are not available in their language(s). "It shouldn't be up to these users anyway" Users are why banks and any business exists, not the other way around. "most people will figure it out just find once they don't have a choice." Most isn't all. Not even close. I find the willingness to abandon large swathes of the population really inhumane.