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Strange how this kind of discussion is now considered “okay” to have. I was attacked for trying to have it in 2020, 2021, and most of 2022 but it seems like 202

Strange how this kind of discussion is now considered “okay” to have. I was attacked for trying to have it in 2020, 2021, and most of 2022 but it seems like 2023 is the year that people will wake up. Too little, too late. The media, especially those that seem to have people’s trust like the NYT played a disgusting role in normalizing the marginalization of the unvaccinated.

kennyloginz 4y ago
Sounds like you are being attacked often? Maybe inspect your vocabulary , it might be stuck in 2002…. Wake up sheeple.
sieabahlpark 4y ago
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MrMan 4y ago
the unvaccinated should absolutely be marginalized. also the idea that we constantly need to "wake up" to some previously hidden reality is a stupid way to look at the world.
- _-david-_ 4y ago
  What other minorities do you believe should be marginalized?
- stuxnet 4y ago
  Separating people into groups of those that should be marginalized and not is a stupid way to look at the world.
- mathwords 4y ago
  Nope. Nurses and Doctors who knew they had Covid should never have been forced to get vaccinated. Very simple. Not difficult to understand.
- wrycoder 4y ago
  Why? We know that being vaccinated doesn’t keep you from catching or transmitting COVID.
  - cweagans 4y ago
    [citation needed]
    - wrycoder 4y ago
      https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.09.29.22280526v1 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.09.29.22280526v...
  - mgoetzke 4y ago
    We also know that vaccinated have less likelihood of both and less severe symptoms on average. Just like a seatbelt does not necessarily mean you will not be harmed in an accident. Or do you believe all efficacy data to be made up ?
    - wrycoder 4y ago
      But, we are talking about vaccination protecting other people. What we see is the hospitals are full of vaccinated people, who are also contagious. You're right, if you want to protect yourself against risk of severe outcome, that's fine. But vaccination does little to protect other people, it seems. I'm double vaxxed, not boosted.
- aa-jv 4y ago
  If your ideological principles require the marginalisation of other human beings on the basis of their personal health decisions, you might be manifesting a totalitarian-authoritarian approach to life that is highly dangerous - and more to the point, extremely contagious. Please innoculate yourself from such extremism by studying this document very, very closely: https://www.un.org/sites/un2.un.org/files/2021/03/udhr.pdf https://www.un.org/sites/un2.un.org/files/2021/03/udhr.pdf
jakeinspace 4y ago
It’s now less dangerous and therefore more permissible, since Covid is no longer a major threat to society (china aside).
- goldenchrome 4y ago
  You’ll have to excuse my language: bullshit. We had the data back in 2020 to know that covid wasn’t a huge threat. It was harmful to very old people with existing underlying health issues. The average age of those who died was older than the life expectancy, and we shut down the world for that. The danger was in people’s minds and that was stoked aggressively by nearly every major institution we have: the government, the medical field, the media, and the tech companies. Each of them benefited from promoting fear.
  - jakeinspace 4y ago
    I’m sorry, I forgot the lives of people over 75 aren’t worth anything.
    - goldenchrome 4y ago
      Children are the future. We must protect and elevate them above all. Locking them up did much more harm than good, and it also strained their parents immensely, the people who are in their prime earning years. Old people could have been even more protected while the rest of us continued on living. The emergency money could have been spent on providing more services to the elderly. Instead they were locked up with little help. In 2021 40% of Covid deaths were in nursing homes. And finally, if you’re past the life expectancy and you know you may only have a few years left, would you spend it locked away isolated from your friends and family, or would you try to make the most of it, knowing that whatever happens you’ve made it further than most already? Many elderly were interviewed and were upset by the lockdowns for this reason. The average covid victim was in this very situation. Why did we take away their agency in their final years?

kennyloginz 4y ago

Sounds like you are being attacked often? Maybe inspect your vocabulary , it might be stuck in 2002…. Wake up sheeple.

sieabahlpark 4y ago

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MrMan 4y ago

the unvaccinated should absolutely be marginalized. also the idea that we constantly need to "wake up" to some previously hidden reality is a stupid way to look at the world.

_-david-_ 4y ago
What other minorities do you believe should be marginalized?
stuxnet 4y ago
Separating people into groups of those that should be marginalized and not is a stupid way to look at the world.
mathwords 4y ago
Nope. Nurses and Doctors who knew they had Covid should never have been forced to get vaccinated. Very simple. Not difficult to understand.
wrycoder 4y ago
Why? We know that being vaccinated doesn’t keep you from catching or transmitting COVID.
- cweagans 4y ago
  [citation needed]
  - wrycoder 4y ago
    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.09.29.22280526v1 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.09.29.22280526v...
- mgoetzke 4y ago
  We also know that vaccinated have less likelihood of both and less severe symptoms on average. Just like a seatbelt does not necessarily mean you will not be harmed in an accident. Or do you believe all efficacy data to be made up ?
  - wrycoder 4y ago
    But, we are talking about vaccination protecting other people. What we see is the hospitals are full of vaccinated people, who are also contagious. You're right, if you want to protect yourself against risk of severe outcome, that's fine. But vaccination does little to protect other people, it seems. I'm double vaxxed, not boosted.
aa-jv 4y ago
If your ideological principles require the marginalisation of other human beings on the basis of their personal health decisions, you might be manifesting a totalitarian-authoritarian approach to life that is highly dangerous - and more to the point, extremely contagious. Please innoculate yourself from such extremism by studying this document very, very closely: https://www.un.org/sites/un2.un.org/files/2021/03/udhr.pdf https://www.un.org/sites/un2.un.org/files/2021/03/udhr.pdf

jakeinspace 4y ago

It’s now less dangerous and therefore more permissible, since Covid is no longer a major threat to society (china aside).

goldenchrome 4y ago
You’ll have to excuse my language: bullshit. We had the data back in 2020 to know that covid wasn’t a huge threat. It was harmful to very old people with existing underlying health issues. The average age of those who died was older than the life expectancy, and we shut down the world for that. The danger was in people’s minds and that was stoked aggressively by nearly every major institution we have: the government, the medical field, the media, and the tech companies. Each of them benefited from promoting fear.
- jakeinspace 4y ago
  I’m sorry, I forgot the lives of people over 75 aren’t worth anything.
  - goldenchrome 4y ago
    Children are the future. We must protect and elevate them above all. Locking them up did much more harm than good, and it also strained their parents immensely, the people who are in their prime earning years. Old people could have been even more protected while the rest of us continued on living. The emergency money could have been spent on providing more services to the elderly. Instead they were locked up with little help. In 2021 40% of Covid deaths were in nursing homes. And finally, if you’re past the life expectancy and you know you may only have a few years left, would you spend it locked away isolated from your friends and family, or would you try to make the most of it, knowing that whatever happens you’ve made it further than most already? Many elderly were interviewed and were upset by the lockdowns for this reason. The average covid victim was in this very situation. Why did we take away their agency in their final years?