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Given that the US is currently in a deep war with Russia and has spent billions helping Ukraine, I believe it is only normal that Russia finances turmoil in US

Given that the US is currently in a deep war with Russia and has spent billions helping Ukraine, I believe it is only normal that Russia finances turmoil in US with at least a couple hundreds of USD millions. Just find extremist people in the US and finance them. It is a standard thing in war. The reason the Bolsheviks won was because they were supported by the german government, as they were in war against Russia.

sammalloy 4y ago
I have no idea why you are getting downvoted, as there is a lot of good evidence supporting your position. The book "Active Measures: The Secret History of Disinformation and Political Warfare" by Thomas Rid spends a great deal of time talking about this. I think the evidence so far shows that the power station attacks are likely linked to loosely affiliated white supremacist groups. It is unknown if Russia is funding them, but if you recall, Russia was linked to several secessionist groups in the US, with the head of the California group eventually moving to Russia. https://www.kqed.org/news/11217187/from-his-home-in-russia-calexit-leader-plots-california-secession https://www.kqed.org/news/11217187/from-his-home-in-russia-c... https://www.npr.org/2018/04/25/586099619/the-russia-investigations-what-you-need-to-know-about-russian-active-measures https://www.npr.org/2018/04/25/586099619/the-russia-investig...
- Tagbert 4y ago
  Curious, how can you tell that there are downvotes? I’m using https://news.ycombinator.com/ https://news.ycombinator.com/ And don’t see anything in the UI about votes, either up or down.
  - wan_ala 4y ago
    The comment is deleted, did you figure out how? I'd like to know too.
    - sammalloy 4y ago
      Sorry for the confusion. The comment was at zero when I replied, and was upvoted later.
practice9 4y ago
Yes, it feels like a Russian operation carried out by proxies. The motive (and timing - it's winter) is the same as in attacks on Ukrainian energy infrastructure - degrade quality of life for civilians in hopes of creating chaos & unrest
- Incipient 4y ago
  Attacks on power grids are not new or unique to the Russians. While it's definitely a plausible explanation, it's pure speculation without evidence.

sammalloy 4y ago

I have no idea why you are getting downvoted, as there is a lot of good evidence supporting your position. The book "Active Measures: The Secret History of Disinformation and Political Warfare" by Thomas Rid spends a great deal of time talking about this. I think the evidence so far shows that the power station attacks are likely linked to loosely affiliated white supremacist groups. It is unknown if Russia is funding them, but if you recall, Russia was linked to several secessionist groups in the US, with the head of the California group eventually moving to Russia. https://www.kqed.org/news/11217187/from-his-home-in-russia-calexit-leader-plots-california-secession https://www.kqed.org/news/11217187/from-his-home-in-russia-c... https://www.npr.org/2018/04/25/586099619/the-russia-investigations-what-you-need-to-know-about-russian-active-measures https://www.npr.org/2018/04/25/586099619/the-russia-investig...

Tagbert 4y ago
Curious, how can you tell that there are downvotes? I’m using https://news.ycombinator.com/ https://news.ycombinator.com/ And don’t see anything in the UI about votes, either up or down.
- wan_ala 4y ago
  The comment is deleted, did you figure out how? I'd like to know too.
  - sammalloy 4y ago
    Sorry for the confusion. The comment was at zero when I replied, and was upvoted later.

practice9 4y ago

Yes, it feels like a Russian operation carried out by proxies. The motive (and timing - it's winter) is the same as in attacks on Ukrainian energy infrastructure - degrade quality of life for civilians in hopes of creating chaos & unrest

Incipient 4y ago
Attacks on power grids are not new or unique to the Russians. While it's definitely a plausible explanation, it's pure speculation without evidence.