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Because a religious group in North Carolina did that, the power station powering the town with a drag show got shot up, and then they claimed "god works in myst

by jhonof 4y ago

Because a religious group in North Carolina did that, the power station powering the town with a drag show got shot up, and then they claimed "god works in mysterious ways" when interviewed by the police. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/vandalism-moore-county-north-carolina-power-b2238601.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/vandalism-... > A resident who had promoted the protest wrote on Facebook: “The power is out in Moore County and I know why.” > The woman, who says she works at a group called Moore County Citizens for Freedom, later said she had been visited by law enforcement officers. > “I told them that God works in mysterious ways and is responsible for the outage,” the woman wrote. > “I used the opportunity to tell them about the immoral drag show and the blasphemies screamed by its supporters. > “I told them God is chastising Moore County, thanked them for coming, and wished them a good night.” It seems far more likely that an attack mirroring another attack that happened a month ago is probably being done by the same group of people.

orblivion 4y ago
"did that" meaning did the attack? I don't think the article says that. > Authorities in Moore County ... have not linked the coordinated attack to a drag queen performance The quote you gave is from someone who promoted a protest. She was claiming that God destroyed the substation. It's not impossible that this means one of her group actually did it, but it's not the same. It's more like some religious figure in 2001 saying that 9/11 happened because of God's wrath against gays or something.
- drewcon 4y ago
  Yeah that yarn about the anti LGBTQ extremism is a GREAT example of the causal misinformation cycle we often find ourselves in. It is readily falsifiable (the police talked of her like a day after the shooting and decided she is just a crank spouting off on Facebook…the end), it has absolutely no merit, zero. It was repeated/suggested/amplified WAY early with zero evidence by notable LGBTQ twitter personalities because it fit a narrative in THEIR head. Then it became THE narrative… And now despite absolutely no connection whatsoever you see it weeks later in adjacent news stories and even here on HN. As fascinating as it is terrible.
  - notjoemama 4y ago
    I'm glad other people can see this too. I keep being disappointed by modern journalism, and to be clear I mean from multiple sources across political divides. I hear a cacophony of lament towards Fox News, particularly Tucker Carlson. Yeah, I agree. But I put Rachel Maddow and Don Lemon under the same microscope. It makes me feel like I don't fit in anywhere. I guess I'm too much of an engineer. Just give me the data and I'll parse it myself. Everything else seems to have become corporate and ideological manipulation. "Oh, you're already angry about person X (of should be), just wait until we tell you their latest tweet. You'll practicaly sponteously combust (or should according to us)." The ones that like to critique a certain someone for fomenting hate seem to be fomenting quite a lot of it themselves lately. I'm not convinced there is as much racial divide as I'm told by the news. Nor as mich divide in regards to gender. Sorry, long response. I'm just really frustrated at being so consistently lied to by "official sources".
    - kmlx 4y ago
      what you’re looking for is not journalism. it’s reporting. few do just reporting because it doesn’t accumulate clicks. journalism does. journalism also sometimes really highlights some deeper issues than just a report (think watergate). but almost all journalism is today clickbait.
zephrx1111 4y ago
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- mhh__ 4y ago
  Meh, takes all sorts to make a world
  - the_third_wave 4y ago
    Yes, but some sorts make for a worse world, among those are the people who are sexualising pre-pubescent children. Drag shows belong together with burlesque and other explicitly sexual things in a wholly adult world, not in the places where they are now being pushed.
    - klyrs 4y ago
      You should attend a family-oriented drag event. Mormon friends of mine were taught the missionary position, in church bible study, as pre-teens. These drag shows don't even come close to that. People keep saying it's not okay to sexualize kids but it's perfectly normal for, say, grandpa to ask a 5 year-old if he's got a girlfriend yet. But telling a boy that it's okay to not be attracted to girls? That's going too far.
      - the_third_wave 4y ago
        [dead]
    - deadbunny 4y ago
      Yes, uninformed people for instance, are a bane on society.
      - the_third_wave 4y ago
        What about people who are informed and decide they don't like these attempts at sexualisation? People who consider those attempts to be a bane on society are not uninformed, they just disagree with this trend. I disagree with this trend and I'm glad my children were not exposed to it.
default-kramer 4y ago
Was there any evidence implicating a religious group besides one woman's Facebook post? Certain people say stuff like this all the time. ("The hurricane is God punishing gay people.") Unless there is much stronger evidence, pushing this angle smells of poor journalism to me.
- drewcon 4y ago
  No.
sbaiddn 4y ago
"Because a religious group in North Carolina did that, the power station powering the town with a drag show got shot up, " [arrest report needed]
_-david-_ 4y ago
>Because a religious group in North Carolina did that, the power station powering the town with a drag show got shot up, and then they claimed "god works in mysterious ways" when interviewed by the police. That doesn't mean she or anybody religious did it? Please reread what you posted.

by jhonof 4y ago

orblivion 4y ago

"did that" meaning did the attack? I don't think the article says that. > Authorities in Moore County ... have not linked the coordinated attack to a drag queen performance The quote you gave is from someone who promoted a protest. She was claiming that God destroyed the substation. It's not impossible that this means one of her group actually did it, but it's not the same. It's more like some religious figure in 2001 saying that 9/11 happened because of God's wrath against gays or something.

drewcon 4y ago
Yeah that yarn about the anti LGBTQ extremism is a GREAT example of the causal misinformation cycle we often find ourselves in. It is readily falsifiable (the police talked of her like a day after the shooting and decided she is just a crank spouting off on Facebook…the end), it has absolutely no merit, zero. It was repeated/suggested/amplified WAY early with zero evidence by notable LGBTQ twitter personalities because it fit a narrative in THEIR head. Then it became THE narrative… And now despite absolutely no connection whatsoever you see it weeks later in adjacent news stories and even here on HN. As fascinating as it is terrible.
- notjoemama 4y ago
  I'm glad other people can see this too. I keep being disappointed by modern journalism, and to be clear I mean from multiple sources across political divides. I hear a cacophony of lament towards Fox News, particularly Tucker Carlson. Yeah, I agree. But I put Rachel Maddow and Don Lemon under the same microscope. It makes me feel like I don't fit in anywhere. I guess I'm too much of an engineer. Just give me the data and I'll parse it myself. Everything else seems to have become corporate and ideological manipulation. "Oh, you're already angry about person X (of should be), just wait until we tell you their latest tweet. You'll practicaly sponteously combust (or should according to us)." The ones that like to critique a certain someone for fomenting hate seem to be fomenting quite a lot of it themselves lately. I'm not convinced there is as much racial divide as I'm told by the news. Nor as mich divide in regards to gender. Sorry, long response. I'm just really frustrated at being so consistently lied to by "official sources".
  - kmlx 4y ago
    what you’re looking for is not journalism. it’s reporting. few do just reporting because it doesn’t accumulate clicks. journalism does. journalism also sometimes really highlights some deeper issues than just a report (think watergate). but almost all journalism is today clickbait.

zephrx1111 4y ago

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mhh__ 4y ago
Meh, takes all sorts to make a world
- the_third_wave 4y ago
  Yes, but some sorts make for a worse world, among those are the people who are sexualising pre-pubescent children. Drag shows belong together with burlesque and other explicitly sexual things in a wholly adult world, not in the places where they are now being pushed.
  - klyrs 4y ago
    You should attend a family-oriented drag event. Mormon friends of mine were taught the missionary position, in church bible study, as pre-teens. These drag shows don't even come close to that. People keep saying it's not okay to sexualize kids but it's perfectly normal for, say, grandpa to ask a 5 year-old if he's got a girlfriend yet. But telling a boy that it's okay to not be attracted to girls? That's going too far.
    - the_third_wave 4y ago
      [dead]
  - deadbunny 4y ago
    Yes, uninformed people for instance, are a bane on society.
    - the_third_wave 4y ago
      What about people who are informed and decide they don't like these attempts at sexualisation? People who consider those attempts to be a bane on society are not uninformed, they just disagree with this trend. I disagree with this trend and I'm glad my children were not exposed to it.

default-kramer 4y ago

Was there any evidence implicating a religious group besides one woman's Facebook post? Certain people say stuff like this all the time. ("The hurricane is God punishing gay people.") Unless there is much stronger evidence, pushing this angle smells of poor journalism to me.

drewcon 4y ago
No.

sbaiddn 4y ago

"Because a religious group in North Carolina did that, the power station powering the town with a drag show got shot up, " [arrest report needed]

_-david-_ 4y ago

>Because a religious group in North Carolina did that, the power station powering the town with a drag show got shot up, and then they claimed "god works in mysterious ways" when interviewed by the police. That doesn't mean she or anybody religious did it? Please reread what you posted.