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I'm not sure if this was asked in earnest, but you could look into the recent Canadian laws around preferred pronoun use, applications and enforcement in univer

I'm not sure if this was asked in earnest, but you could look into the recent Canadian laws around preferred pronoun use, applications and enforcement in universities there, as an example. Googling "compelled speech 2022" will yield many articles worth reading for further examples.

roflyear 4y ago
Yes. Anyway, the Canada bills don't mention pronouns at all. That Google search did not give me much. I can't find any law enforcement getting involved in Canada at universities regarding pronouns. General articles about what compelled speech is but no laws. Reading those articles tho is interesting bc I'm not sure what I think you are describing is compelled speech anyway. It bans a certain type of speech potentially but doesn't force you to interact with someone. I'm also talking about the US not Canada. Where do you get your news?
- andrew_ 4y ago
  I've taken some time to look at your other comments and don't have faith that any amount of information will sway you in the slightest. Your bias is very strong, and while there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, I don't have interest in continuing.
  - wolverine876 4y ago
    It looks like the opposite: Can you provide evidence of your claims?
  - roflyear 4y ago
    Well, I'll tell you that they will if you give me any data. At least, I will read it and tell you my opinion of it. If that is not worth your time, ok. I promise you that I have changed my opinion about things after learning more about them :) For example, if you could substantiate that certain policies are being enforced by the government in Canada, likely I would agree that they should not be enforced that way! (I just can't find that anywhere someone was arrested for misgendering a person).
IIsi50MHz 4y ago
Please remember that Google strongly prefers to rank search results according to what Google's däa indicates the known-or-probable user seems to prefer. This can result in a "bubble" of search results, effects of which can include that user finding more of what that user already knows/expects, while another user performing the same search receives substantially different results. To avoid this, one possibility is using StartPage.com or eu.StartPage.com (which use Google search results while presenting all users to Google as a single user). Another option may be duckduckgo.com (which uses primarily Bing search results in similar fashion). A new option is kagi.com, which I haven't used much yet, but offers ad-free search for erther a low number of searches per month or a monthly fee.
- andrew_ 4y ago
  That's a very fair point. I'll remember that moving forward

roflyear 4y ago

Yes. Anyway, the Canada bills don't mention pronouns at all. That Google search did not give me much. I can't find any law enforcement getting involved in Canada at universities regarding pronouns. General articles about what compelled speech is but no laws. Reading those articles tho is interesting bc I'm not sure what I think you are describing is compelled speech anyway. It bans a certain type of speech potentially but doesn't force you to interact with someone. I'm also talking about the US not Canada. Where do you get your news?

andrew_ 4y ago
I've taken some time to look at your other comments and don't have faith that any amount of information will sway you in the slightest. Your bias is very strong, and while there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, I don't have interest in continuing.
- wolverine876 4y ago
  It looks like the opposite: Can you provide evidence of your claims?
- roflyear 4y ago
  Well, I'll tell you that they will if you give me any data. At least, I will read it and tell you my opinion of it. If that is not worth your time, ok. I promise you that I have changed my opinion about things after learning more about them :) For example, if you could substantiate that certain policies are being enforced by the government in Canada, likely I would agree that they should not be enforced that way! (I just can't find that anywhere someone was arrested for misgendering a person).

IIsi50MHz 4y ago

Please remember that Google strongly prefers to rank search results according to what Google's däa indicates the known-or-probable user seems to prefer. This can result in a "bubble" of search results, effects of which can include that user finding more of what that user already knows/expects, while another user performing the same search receives substantially different results. To avoid this, one possibility is using StartPage.com or eu.StartPage.com (which use Google search results while presenting all users to Google as a single user). Another option may be duckduckgo.com (which uses primarily Bing search results in similar fashion). A new option is kagi.com, which I haven't used much yet, but offers ad-free search for erther a low number of searches per month or a monthly fee.

andrew_ 4y ago
That's a very fair point. I'll remember that moving forward