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Again, other countries have already came up with solutions to this - in Norway maximum sentence is 25 years, but if you are given it, it's subject to automatic

Again, other countries have already came up with solutions to this - in Norway maximum sentence is 25 years, but if you are given it, it's subject to automatic review at the end - if you still aren't rehabilitated, it just gets extended. For instance Anders Breivik was sentenced as such - and the chances of him actually ever leaving prison are close to zero, despite Norway having a maximum time limit on sentencing. (I can also see the argument as to why this is unusually cruel punishment - you are never sure how long your imprisonment will last, but I think it's the best compromise if you don't want to have a life sentence as a thing.) Also if someone asks - how is that different than life sentence with possible parole after 25 years - because in this setup, the state has to argue why someone needs to be imprisoned for longer, instead of the prisoner arguing why they should be released. I believe this is much healthier for the whole system.

xwdv 4y ago
The caveat is that many criminals in those countries don’t have the capacity for violence that American criminals have. Also, it’s useless the balk at long sentences because often American prisoners do not end up serving the full sentence for various reasons. And as you mentioned, those “maximums” aren’t true maximums anyway, so what’s the point? Better to be upfront.
- gambiting 4y ago
  >>The caveat is that many criminals in those countries don’t have the capacity for violence that American criminals have. I literally mentioned Breivik in my example though? He is probably the worst of the worst and the system knows how to deal with him in a way that makes sense, without having to create special arrangements or exceptions for him. Can you name any American criminal for whom this kind of setup wouldn't be sufficient for?
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sokoloff 4y ago
You start with “again”; where was the previous?
- gambiting 4y ago
  There wasn't, sorry - it's a weird habit I have when arguing online.

xwdv 4y ago

The caveat is that many criminals in those countries don’t have the capacity for violence that American criminals have. Also, it’s useless the balk at long sentences because often American prisoners do not end up serving the full sentence for various reasons. And as you mentioned, those “maximums” aren’t true maximums anyway, so what’s the point? Better to be upfront.

gambiting 4y ago
>>The caveat is that many criminals in those countries don’t have the capacity for violence that American criminals have. I literally mentioned Breivik in my example though? He is probably the worst of the worst and the system knows how to deal with him in a way that makes sense, without having to create special arrangements or exceptions for him. Can you name any American criminal for whom this kind of setup wouldn't be sufficient for?
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sokoloff 4y ago

You start with “again”; where was the previous?

gambiting 4y ago
There wasn't, sorry - it's a weird habit I have when arguing online.