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No, because they are both accurate descriptions, but "global warming" is talking about the average temp. Even as the average goes up, the standard deviation co

No, because they are both accurate descriptions, but "global warming" is talking about the average temp. Even as the average goes up, the standard deviation could change too, meaning that even with higher average temp, there can be bigger and colder winter storms, which are balanced out by even higher temps the rest of the time.

nottorp 4y ago
There were studies 10-20 years ago predicting that global warming will bring with it completely unpredictable weather and harsher extremes in both directions.
- throw_nbvc1234 4y ago
  Do any governments or institutions have a live(ish) updating model of "what would happen" if trends continue? People reference studies all the time but what's the currently accepted model/outcome in the scientific community? I remember hearing that melting of the ice caps will stop current flows in the ocean and bring about an ice age. Is that actually a thing or just fake news?
  - aaomidi 4y ago
    One of the things is a weakening jet stream which has caused all the recent havoc on getting cold polar air come inland. This is why climate change vs global warming. We’re in for a hell of winters in the US as the jet stream weakens.
  - anigbrowl 4y ago
    It's difficult, like the difference between knowing a car is going crash and being able to estimate how it will look afterward. You can (to some extent) access these models and try them out yourself: https://juliahub.com/ui/Packages/ClimateModels/dFyeI/0.2.15 https://juliahub.com/ui/Packages/ClimateModels/dFyeI/0.2.15
  - pvaldes 4y ago
    Is a real concern. Half of Europe is "kissed" by tropical seawater running from the Gulf of Mexico towards Russia. This hot water creates a warmer than expected climate in the coastal areas. Portugal, UK, Denmark, Norway... all is warmer that it should be. If this current stops flowing or is weakened things will suck real fast.
smcl 4y ago
Wait, why "No"? We're saying the same thing in different way. you: > meaning that even with higher average temp, there can be bigger and colder winter storms me: > Temperature rising has a few more side-effects than just your winter being milder by 1-2C
- kzrdude 4y ago
  Another thing we can spell out is that the rising average temperature is an average over the whole year, over the whole planet. I.e any particular location or country could have a sinking average temperature.

nottorp 4y ago

There were studies 10-20 years ago predicting that global warming will bring with it completely unpredictable weather and harsher extremes in both directions.

throw_nbvc1234 4y ago
Do any governments or institutions have a live(ish) updating model of "what would happen" if trends continue? People reference studies all the time but what's the currently accepted model/outcome in the scientific community? I remember hearing that melting of the ice caps will stop current flows in the ocean and bring about an ice age. Is that actually a thing or just fake news?
- aaomidi 4y ago
  One of the things is a weakening jet stream which has caused all the recent havoc on getting cold polar air come inland. This is why climate change vs global warming. We’re in for a hell of winters in the US as the jet stream weakens.
- anigbrowl 4y ago
  It's difficult, like the difference between knowing a car is going crash and being able to estimate how it will look afterward. You can (to some extent) access these models and try them out yourself: https://juliahub.com/ui/Packages/ClimateModels/dFyeI/0.2.15 https://juliahub.com/ui/Packages/ClimateModels/dFyeI/0.2.15
- pvaldes 4y ago
  Is a real concern. Half of Europe is "kissed" by tropical seawater running from the Gulf of Mexico towards Russia. This hot water creates a warmer than expected climate in the coastal areas. Portugal, UK, Denmark, Norway... all is warmer that it should be. If this current stops flowing or is weakened things will suck real fast.

smcl 4y ago

Wait, why "No"? We're saying the same thing in different way. you: > meaning that even with higher average temp, there can be bigger and colder winter storms me: > Temperature rising has a few more side-effects than just your winter being milder by 1-2C

kzrdude 4y ago
Another thing we can spell out is that the rising average temperature is an average over the whole year, over the whole planet. I.e any particular location or country could have a sinking average temperature.