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If you want something self-hosted look into Foam[0]. You write your notes in VS Code with Markdown. Many web frameworks can then generate interactive sites from

If you want something self-hosted look into Foam[0]. You write your notes in VS Code with Markdown. Many web frameworks can then generate interactive sites from it. [0] https://foambubble.github.io/foam/ https://foambubble.github.io/foam/

rhtgrg 4y ago
I've documented some of my improvements to Foam and my workflow [0], brings it very close to endgame for me. [0] https://csh.rit.edu/~rg/productivity/20221109203834/ https://csh.rit.edu/~rg/productivity/20221109203834/
sofixa 4y ago
Obsidian is also self-hosted, so i don't understand your point. It's just a very fancy Markdown editor of local files.
- wrycoder 4y ago
  The idea is to be able to hit the server from all your devices, and to have that server and all the software under your control.
  - scubbo 4y ago
    You can very simply host your own server providing and syncing markdown files with rsync! (/s, referencing https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863)
- stonepresto 4y ago
  Open source
stonepresto 4y ago
Finally something FOSS I can get behind. Really dislike Obsidians business model; it's going to breed anti-user features. This looks very hackable too (in the good way).
- sofixa 4y ago
  What do you have against Obsidian's business model and what better one do you imagine?
  - stonepresto 4y ago
    Its not FOSS, and they rely on subscriptions. Call me a hardliner, but that's two non-negotiable things when it comes to nice-to-have software for me personally. If they created an open source version I could self-host, I would happily adopt it. Frankly it looks beautiful and is only missing easy file integration. But they don't because it would cause them to lose a vast source of value they provide to their customers (providing proxies and servers for people to access their data remotely).
    - sofixa 4y ago
      They rely on subscriptions for two very subscriptiony things - storing and syncing files, and hosting a website. Both have ongoing recurring costs, so a subscription is the only thing that makes sense. You don't actually need either of them and could easily use any other third party syncing/static host tool or service, and many people do with Git, Dropbox, etc. The only part of their business model you can't go around is the fact that they're not FOSS, and for business use you need a business license. I personally find the terms quite acceptable (only apply if you work in a for profit place with more than two employees and more than X revenue), and the price is good value for money for me.
- mpalmer 4y ago
  Obsidian has been around for years at this point. It's completely free to use without limitations on functionality. They make money by charging for sync, but are happy to point out that there are free options to sync data. So where are these anti-user features? Why does the business model lead to them? "Not open source" doesn't count.
  - dunham 4y ago
    I have no idea what features are "anti-user", but I would note that it is not free for commercial use. I'm paying for Obsidian sync and still can't use Obsidian for work. (At the moment, I'm using logseq there.) https://obsidian.md/eula https://obsidian.md/eula

rhtgrg 4y ago

I've documented some of my improvements to Foam and my workflow [0], brings it very close to endgame for me. [0] https://csh.rit.edu/~rg/productivity/20221109203834/ https://csh.rit.edu/~rg/productivity/20221109203834/

sofixa 4y ago

Obsidian is also self-hosted, so i don't understand your point. It's just a very fancy Markdown editor of local files.

wrycoder 4y ago
The idea is to be able to hit the server from all your devices, and to have that server and all the software under your control.
- scubbo 4y ago
  You can very simply host your own server providing and syncing markdown files with rsync! (/s, referencing https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863)
stonepresto 4y ago
Open source

stonepresto 4y ago

Finally something FOSS I can get behind. Really dislike Obsidians business model; it's going to breed anti-user features. This looks very hackable too (in the good way).

sofixa 4y ago
What do you have against Obsidian's business model and what better one do you imagine?
- stonepresto 4y ago
  Its not FOSS, and they rely on subscriptions. Call me a hardliner, but that's two non-negotiable things when it comes to nice-to-have software for me personally. If they created an open source version I could self-host, I would happily adopt it. Frankly it looks beautiful and is only missing easy file integration. But they don't because it would cause them to lose a vast source of value they provide to their customers (providing proxies and servers for people to access their data remotely).
  - sofixa 4y ago
    They rely on subscriptions for two very subscriptiony things - storing and syncing files, and hosting a website. Both have ongoing recurring costs, so a subscription is the only thing that makes sense. You don't actually need either of them and could easily use any other third party syncing/static host tool or service, and many people do with Git, Dropbox, etc. The only part of their business model you can't go around is the fact that they're not FOSS, and for business use you need a business license. I personally find the terms quite acceptable (only apply if you work in a for profit place with more than two employees and more than X revenue), and the price is good value for money for me.
mpalmer 4y ago
Obsidian has been around for years at this point. It's completely free to use without limitations on functionality. They make money by charging for sync, but are happy to point out that there are free options to sync data. So where are these anti-user features? Why does the business model lead to them? "Not open source" doesn't count.
- dunham 4y ago
  I have no idea what features are "anti-user", but I would note that it is not free for commercial use. I'm paying for Obsidian sync and still can't use Obsidian for work. (At the moment, I'm using logseq there.) https://obsidian.md/eula https://obsidian.md/eula