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Clintel was even in the news cycle a few years ago and you submit it without even googling it before? You impute that I have a particular stance on climate chan

Clintel was even in the news cycle a few years ago and you submit it without even googling it before? You impute that I have a particular stance on climate change, but I honestly believe you have because no person without an agenda would play naive like you. I myself just hate misinformation and people that share and play victim when nobody engages with it.

mactavish88 4y ago
I get literally nothing from the news search in DuckDuckGo when I search for “clintel” It still seems you assume I have a particular agenda here beyond wanting to have a conversation on the topic.
- theCrowing 4y ago
  Now you also play blind... so, you pretend that you didn't see the articles linked below before you pressed the "news" button? https://duckduckgo.com/?q=clintel&t=h_&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?q=clintel&t=h_&ia=web First Page Results: https://www.desmog.com/climate-intelligence-foundation-clintel/ https://www.desmog.com/climate-intelligence-foundation-clint... https://insideclimatenews.org/todaysclimate/experts-debunk-viral-post-claiming-1100-scientists-say-theres-no-climate-emergency/ https://insideclimatenews.org/todaysclimate/experts-debunk-v... https://www.thequint.com/climate-change/1200-scientists-claim-that-climate-change-is-not-real-heres-the-truth https://www.thequint.com/climate-change/1200-scientists-clai... https://climatefeedback.org/evaluation/letter-signed-by-500-scientists-relies-on-inaccurate-claims-about-climate-science/ https://climatefeedback.org/evaluation/letter-signed-by-500-... https://www.resilience.org/stories/2019-09-16/climate-science-deniers-planning-european-misinformation-campaign-leaked-documents-reveal/ https://www.resilience.org/stories/2019-09-16/climate-scienc...
  - Gunnerhead 4y ago
    Can you please not say things such as “you also play blind”? You’re being mean and snarky, completely violating HN guidelines. We can all benefit from kind and helpful interactions, that’s what makes this website great. “Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. Edit out swipes.” [1] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - theCrowing 4y ago
      If someone argues in good faith I would probably do it but he is clearly trying to gaslight here. Or do you believe DDG is jeopardizing an essential part of their search business just to fuck with him?
      - Gunnerhead 4y ago
        I think we should give everyone the benefit of the doubt and be kind.
        theCrowing 4y ago
        You are right, it is important to approach them with an open mind and to give others the benefit of the doubt. However, if someone begins to engage in gaslighting tactics, it becomes necessary to confront and challenge their behavior in order to prevent them from manipulating and distorting the conversation. Gaslighting is a harmful and insidious form of manipulation that seeks to undermine the credibility and reality of others, and it is essential to stand up to it in order to maintain the integrity and honesty of the discussion. By actively and assertively addressing gaslighting, we can create a safer and more respectful space for open and honest discourse even if being assertive means writing less candid than usual.
  - mactavish88 4y ago
    I get none of those links on the first page. It took several pages of search results before I started seeing any of the links you’ve shared here.
    - theCrowing 4y ago
      Now you are just lying... DuckDuckGo doesn't profile its users according to their search patterns, and everyone gets the same search results. [1] [1] https://spreadprivacy.com/google-filter-bubble-study/ https://spreadprivacy.com/google-filter-bubble-study/ EDIT: Yeah, maybe he wasn't lying but the standard search results from 5 different VPN locations with different browsers and user agents is linked below. still sus.
      - mactavish88 4y ago
        Here you go, my first page of hits on mobile: https://imgur.com/a/zSL5fVX https://imgur.com/a/zSL5fVX Only when I got to my laptop now did the set of links differ: https://imgur.com/a/EuUt7U5 https://imgur.com/a/EuUt7U5 Clearly not the same set of results for the same search.
        theCrowing 4y ago
        See that's another you problem you changed something and now your search results are distorted. Here are screenshots from 5 different VPN locations with different browsers and different user agents... https://imgur.com/a/P4zoAzf https://imgur.com/a/P4zoAzf

mactavish88 4y ago

I get literally nothing from the news search in DuckDuckGo when I search for “clintel” It still seems you assume I have a particular agenda here beyond wanting to have a conversation on the topic.

theCrowing 4y ago
Now you also play blind... so, you pretend that you didn't see the articles linked below before you pressed the "news" button? https://duckduckgo.com/?q=clintel&t=h_&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?q=clintel&t=h_&ia=web First Page Results: https://www.desmog.com/climate-intelligence-foundation-clintel/ https://www.desmog.com/climate-intelligence-foundation-clint... https://insideclimatenews.org/todaysclimate/experts-debunk-viral-post-claiming-1100-scientists-say-theres-no-climate-emergency/ https://insideclimatenews.org/todaysclimate/experts-debunk-v... https://www.thequint.com/climate-change/1200-scientists-claim-that-climate-change-is-not-real-heres-the-truth https://www.thequint.com/climate-change/1200-scientists-clai... https://climatefeedback.org/evaluation/letter-signed-by-500-scientists-relies-on-inaccurate-claims-about-climate-science/ https://climatefeedback.org/evaluation/letter-signed-by-500-... https://www.resilience.org/stories/2019-09-16/climate-science-deniers-planning-european-misinformation-campaign-leaked-documents-reveal/ https://www.resilience.org/stories/2019-09-16/climate-scienc...
- Gunnerhead 4y ago
  Can you please not say things such as “you also play blind”? You’re being mean and snarky, completely violating HN guidelines. We can all benefit from kind and helpful interactions, that’s what makes this website great. “Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. Edit out swipes.” [1] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - theCrowing 4y ago
    If someone argues in good faith I would probably do it but he is clearly trying to gaslight here. Or do you believe DDG is jeopardizing an essential part of their search business just to fuck with him?
    - Gunnerhead 4y ago
      I think we should give everyone the benefit of the doubt and be kind.
      - theCrowing 4y ago
        You are right, it is important to approach them with an open mind and to give others the benefit of the doubt. However, if someone begins to engage in gaslighting tactics, it becomes necessary to confront and challenge their behavior in order to prevent them from manipulating and distorting the conversation. Gaslighting is a harmful and insidious form of manipulation that seeks to undermine the credibility and reality of others, and it is essential to stand up to it in order to maintain the integrity and honesty of the discussion. By actively and assertively addressing gaslighting, we can create a safer and more respectful space for open and honest discourse even if being assertive means writing less candid than usual.
- mactavish88 4y ago
  I get none of those links on the first page. It took several pages of search results before I started seeing any of the links you’ve shared here.
  - theCrowing 4y ago
    Now you are just lying... DuckDuckGo doesn't profile its users according to their search patterns, and everyone gets the same search results. [1] [1] https://spreadprivacy.com/google-filter-bubble-study/ https://spreadprivacy.com/google-filter-bubble-study/ EDIT: Yeah, maybe he wasn't lying but the standard search results from 5 different VPN locations with different browsers and user agents is linked below. still sus.
    - mactavish88 4y ago
      Here you go, my first page of hits on mobile: https://imgur.com/a/zSL5fVX https://imgur.com/a/zSL5fVX Only when I got to my laptop now did the set of links differ: https://imgur.com/a/EuUt7U5 https://imgur.com/a/EuUt7U5 Clearly not the same set of results for the same search.
      - theCrowing 4y ago
        See that's another you problem you changed something and now your search results are distorted. Here are screenshots from 5 different VPN locations with different browsers and different user agents... https://imgur.com/a/P4zoAzf https://imgur.com/a/P4zoAzf