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Re matt walsh it seems his most recent public statements haven't trickled into much of the HN consciousness, I recommend listening to him say in his own words h

Re matt walsh it seems his most recent public statements haven't trickled into much of the HN consciousness, I recommend listening to him say in his own words how he wants people that do drag shows to have their doors kicked down and thrown in prison: https://www.losangelesblade.com/2022/10/20/matt-walsh-police-need-to-break-down-the-doors-of-drag-shows/ https://www.losangelesblade.com/2022/10/20/matt-walsh-police... > Doesn’t he literally go to public spaces with signs saying “change my mind”? Not anytime recently I'm aware of. He's a single example of the notoriously hard to pin down and debate conservative crowd. He famously dodges debates with liberal intellectuals. Sam something. I'm out right now, can't remember name. > In the bathroom associated with their biological sex? Also who is preventing trans activists from speaking? Schools across the usa are limiting trans students rights to use bathrooms, getting banned from participating in sports, etc. Weird legislation is being proposed to check student genitals. It's getting super weird in America and I recommend poking around a bit if interested, though I also avoid usa news now, mostly because it depresses me. > Honestly I don’t really understand why women need a whole separate bathroom to begin with. I don't understand why men have a different bathroom lol I think it's a little curious you said it like that instead of "I don't understand why we separate bathroom based on gender " Neither do I for what it's worth but it's kinda moot when LGBT people are being shot because of the rhetoric in the usa right now > Yet I’m to believe in 2022 I’m going to get lynched for liking dick. In the usa it's more likely you'll be shot while congregating in places known to serve LGBT people. I don't get why you're like... Downplaying that there's violence against LGBT people in the usa?

Mezzie 4y ago
> In the usa it's more likely you'll be shot while congregating in places known to serve LGBT people. I don't get why you're like... Downplaying that there's violence against LGBT people in the usa? To be flippant (and gay): I'm also likely to be shot at a Walmart, a parade, or any other place just going about my business. Luckily I'm not a teacher, so I don't spend a ton of time in schools. I'm pretty sure I'm more at risk statistically in going grocery shopping, to the movies, etc.
malwrar 4y ago
> I recommend listening to him say in his own words how he wants people that do drag shows to have their doors kicked down and thrown in prison: Fair enough, this guy seems pretty out of touch with reality listening to this clip. I’ll listen more carefully to similar speech in the future. > Sam something. I'm out right now, can't remember name Sam Harris maybe? > I think it's a little curious you said it like that instead of "I don't understand why we separate bathroom based on gender " I assume men aren’t protesting women (gender or sex) entering their bathroom, the issue has always come across as a protect women from creeps thing. Your version is better though. > Schools across the usa are limiting trans students rights to use bathrooms, getting banned from participating in sports, etc. Just more protection stuff afaict, in the case of sports around sex-based physical differences leading to unfair advantage and possible physical harm. Am I uninformed and transpeople are getting banned outright? > I also avoid usa news now, mostly because it depresses me Yeah feel that, I just feel helpless and scared reading the news. It’s a beautiful country though, and on a person-by-person basis I’ve found people to be mostly wonderful. I try to hold on to that. > I don't get why you're like... Downplaying that there's violence against LGBT people in the usa? Violence against LGBT people is a reality, it’s just rare enough and punished sufficiently now that I’m prepared to mourn but write it off (from a personal risk perspective) as the occasional savage and continue going to gay bars unworried. I’m more frightened about getting mugged on my way to the bar. That or people not listening if it does start getting really bad because people just stop believing us.
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- ModernMech 4y ago
  > Just more protection stuff afaict, in the case of sports around sex-based physical differences leading to unfair advantage and possible physical harm. To be clear, women have been asking conservatives for specific changes to the law that would better protect themselves. Conservatives have been largely deaf to these requests, and instead have just completed their 50 year political project of gutting Roe v. Wade, which has been a huge step back for women's health and rights. So the idea that conservatives who are championing bathroom bans and sports bans are doing so to protect women doesn't pass the laugh test. In 2022, conservative politicians and SCOTUS justices are far more dangerous to women's health than anything else. The bathroom and sports bans being made into law by conservatives are not to help women; they are to hurt trans people as a signal to their political base, because they can't signal with gay people anymore. Indeed, they tried the same thing in the decades past with gay people, labeling them a danger to society, the army, public health -- anything. Now being gay is more acceptable in society writ large, but the political animus against them still exists in conservatives circles. So just dusted off the old playbook, crossed out "gay", replaced it with "trans", and they ran it again like it's 1985. Saddest part is that is that it works so well.

Mezzie 4y ago

> In the usa it's more likely you'll be shot while congregating in places known to serve LGBT people. I don't get why you're like... Downplaying that there's violence against LGBT people in the usa? To be flippant (and gay): I'm also likely to be shot at a Walmart, a parade, or any other place just going about my business. Luckily I'm not a teacher, so I don't spend a ton of time in schools. I'm pretty sure I'm more at risk statistically in going grocery shopping, to the movies, etc.

malwrar 4y ago

> I recommend listening to him say in his own words how he wants people that do drag shows to have their doors kicked down and thrown in prison: Fair enough, this guy seems pretty out of touch with reality listening to this clip. I’ll listen more carefully to similar speech in the future. > Sam something. I'm out right now, can't remember name Sam Harris maybe? > I think it's a little curious you said it like that instead of "I don't understand why we separate bathroom based on gender " I assume men aren’t protesting women (gender or sex) entering their bathroom, the issue has always come across as a protect women from creeps thing. Your version is better though. > Schools across the usa are limiting trans students rights to use bathrooms, getting banned from participating in sports, etc. Just more protection stuff afaict, in the case of sports around sex-based physical differences leading to unfair advantage and possible physical harm. Am I uninformed and transpeople are getting banned outright? > I also avoid usa news now, mostly because it depresses me Yeah feel that, I just feel helpless and scared reading the news. It’s a beautiful country though, and on a person-by-person basis I’ve found people to be mostly wonderful. I try to hold on to that. > I don't get why you're like... Downplaying that there's violence against LGBT people in the usa? Violence against LGBT people is a reality, it’s just rare enough and punished sufficiently now that I’m prepared to mourn but write it off (from a personal risk perspective) as the occasional savage and continue going to gay bars unworried. I’m more frightened about getting mugged on my way to the bar. That or people not listening if it does start getting really bad because people just stop believing us.

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ModernMech 4y ago
> Just more protection stuff afaict, in the case of sports around sex-based physical differences leading to unfair advantage and possible physical harm. To be clear, women have been asking conservatives for specific changes to the law that would better protect themselves. Conservatives have been largely deaf to these requests, and instead have just completed their 50 year political project of gutting Roe v. Wade, which has been a huge step back for women's health and rights. So the idea that conservatives who are championing bathroom bans and sports bans are doing so to protect women doesn't pass the laugh test. In 2022, conservative politicians and SCOTUS justices are far more dangerous to women's health than anything else. The bathroom and sports bans being made into law by conservatives are not to help women; they are to hurt trans people as a signal to their political base, because they can't signal with gay people anymore. Indeed, they tried the same thing in the decades past with gay people, labeling them a danger to society, the army, public health -- anything. Now being gay is more acceptable in society writ large, but the political animus against them still exists in conservatives circles. So just dusted off the old playbook, crossed out "gay", replaced it with "trans", and they ran it again like it's 1985. Saddest part is that is that it works so well.