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6GHz is coming thankfully.. wifi channel planning especially across regions is rough.
by qwertywert_ 4y ago
6GHz is coming thankfully.. wifi channel planning especially across regions is rough.
- silisili 4y ago6ghz has pretty poor range. I had to pull my routers off that backhaul.
- linsomniac 4y agoPoor range means less interference from neighbors, which I've found is a good thing. I'm pretty sure I have a neighbor with a leaky microwave or cordless phone that wipes out 2.4 intermittently. Remember: interference isn't all WiFi.
- silisili 4y agoIt does, and that's generally a good thing. But I have 2 routers in a mesh, about 50 or so feet away, that work serviceably in my house on 5g, and poor connection on 6g. I think in the future people are going to need a lot more nodes. Like, twice as many. But hey, fast speeds and less interference.
- linsomniac 4y agoI've been at the "have one AP in every air space where we make significant use of WiFi" for ~5 years. My 1700sqft home has 4 Google mesh nodes, and I've moved towards hard wiring them. Has really improved the wifi quality.
- bozhark 4y agoSo, note to new IoT device makers… give it an AP
- mjevans 4y agoWere you using directional antennas (or at least parabolic reflectors around them) for your backhaul?
- silisili 4y agoNo. I just bought an off the shelf 6e kit.
- anilakar 4y agoA 6 GHz radio is pretty much equivalent to a 5-point-something GHz one. As a counterexample, 2.4 GHz is completely unusable in our penthouse office. I'd rather deal with limited cell size than continuous interference issues.
- ziml77 4y agoYes, in an apartment, more available frequencies and less ability to penetrate walls is a good thing. Otherwise there’s immense amounts of interference. And it ends up being made worse when people try to improve their own experience by turning their transmit power all the way up. It necessitates that everyone turn theirs up, which then just makes the interference return and spread further.
- glogla 4y agoThere's a reason wired backhaul is considered best practice.
- russianGuy83829 4y agoto use full power on 6GHz, the router needs to upload its GPS location to a central server to get the available frequencies. Worse than 5GHz in my opinion
- japanman425 4y agoJust lie
- russianGuy83829 4y agoI’m not: it’s called AFC. https://www.extremenetworks.com/extreme-networks-blog/wi-fi-6e-and-automated-frequency-coordination-afc-what-you-need-to/ https://www.extremenetworks.com/extreme-networks-blog/wi-fi-... https://documentation.meraki.com/MR/Other_Topics/Wi-Fi_6E_Frequently_Asked_Questions https://documentation.meraki.com/MR/Other_Topics/Wi-Fi_6E_Fr... (Point 4) It has been approved in November: https://www.rcrwireless.com/20221103/network-infrastructure/wi-fi/fcc-conditionally-approves-afc-systems-for-6-ghz-wi-fi-operation https://www.rcrwireless.com/20221103/network-infrastructure/...
- X-Istence 4y agoNo, lie to the router about what frequencies and power is okay.
- KirillPanov 4y agoYou don't have the crypto keys to do that. AP firmware is 100% closed-source, vendor-signed blobs these days.
- karteum 4y agoI don't know the situation in the US and I don't think EU administrations require firmwares to be locked at the moment, yet I can tell that requesting locked hardware/firmware is a recurring debate within RF administrations since there were too many abuses (cf. this thread "just tell the hardware to lie" or "just use openwrt to disable DFS" above...) and too many interferences to other services (such as wifi-DFS-disabled interfering with weather-forecast radars). The 6 GHz wifi 6E has to coexist with fixed links, and administrations obviously don't want to repeat the mistakes and issues that are happening today at 5 GHz with radars...