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So what makes it illegal? If the law requires the copyright holder to complain, and complaints are handled according to the law, what’s illegal there? Also, wh

by hjkl0 4y ago

So what makes it illegal? If the law requires the copyright holder to complain, and complaints are handled according to the law, what’s illegal there? Also, why do you say Nintendo is deluding themselves? There are no obvious Nintendo properties at least on the most viewed list. The most popular game is Sonic 2…

db48x 4y ago
It is illegal to distribute copies unless you are the copyright holder. It is, however, a civil offense and so the copyright holder must ask for it to stop or, if that fails, file a lawsuit. IF one of those copyright holders shows up with a lawsuit, they can use the years and years of distribution to pile on damages, and the fact that IA knows it is technically illegal to make it stick. IA is betting that it won’t happen. Most of those companies are defunct, or have been sold so many times that nobody remembers them specifically. Some, like Sega, seem content to ignore it and passively benefit from reminders of past success. Quite a few authors of ancient games have written reviews of their games on IA; that subgroup seems uniformly overjoyed that people can play their games again. Nintendo is deluding themselves because they think that every one of their old properties can earn them more money in the future, and that’s all they care about. If someone has an urge to play Mario, Nintendo would prefer that they satisfy this need by purchasing the most recent Mario–themed game rather than by playing the original in emulation. The same goes for all of their lesser works as well. Thus they complained and IA has hidden all the Nintendo items. Amiga, or the two or three companies that bought various parts of it, are deluding themselves into thinking that they can release a new Amiga computer and operating system in the future, revitalizing the old business.
- hjkl0 4y ago
  Thanks for your detailed and informative reply! I do have to say, at least for Nintendo, the delusion seems to hold up to reality pretty well. Maybe it doesn't really apply in this IA thing, since it is possible to find, for e.g., a playable Super Mario World game in there if you just search the whole archive instead of just this IA Arcade collection. But in practice that doesn't keep Nintendo from enjoying continued success with re-releasing old games at full prices. See for example the upcoming Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe, a $60 remake of a 2011 Wii game, originally priced at $50 (this was what Nintendo charged for new games at the time, when they were still trying to undercut the competition.) Note also Super Mario 3D All Stars, released 2020 with three full Mario games (via emulation), from 1996, 2002, and 2007, also for $60 price, but discontinued and no longer available since 2021. It was one of the best selling games in 2020. FWIW, can still be found on Amazon, but currently priced at $75.
  - db48x 4y ago
    They have a handful of games that they can remake until the end of time, but for each of them there are probably a dozen games that they’ll never bother with.

by hjkl0 4y ago

db48x 4y ago

It is illegal to distribute copies unless you are the copyright holder. It is, however, a civil offense and so the copyright holder must ask for it to stop or, if that fails, file a lawsuit. IF one of those copyright holders shows up with a lawsuit, they can use the years and years of distribution to pile on damages, and the fact that IA knows it is technically illegal to make it stick. IA is betting that it won’t happen. Most of those companies are defunct, or have been sold so many times that nobody remembers them specifically. Some, like Sega, seem content to ignore it and passively benefit from reminders of past success. Quite a few authors of ancient games have written reviews of their games on IA; that subgroup seems uniformly overjoyed that people can play their games again. Nintendo is deluding themselves because they think that every one of their old properties can earn them more money in the future, and that’s all they care about. If someone has an urge to play Mario, Nintendo would prefer that they satisfy this need by purchasing the most recent Mario–themed game rather than by playing the original in emulation. The same goes for all of their lesser works as well. Thus they complained and IA has hidden all the Nintendo items. Amiga, or the two or three companies that bought various parts of it, are deluding themselves into thinking that they can release a new Amiga computer and operating system in the future, revitalizing the old business.

hjkl0 4y ago
Thanks for your detailed and informative reply! I do have to say, at least for Nintendo, the delusion seems to hold up to reality pretty well. Maybe it doesn't really apply in this IA thing, since it is possible to find, for e.g., a playable Super Mario World game in there if you just search the whole archive instead of just this IA Arcade collection. But in practice that doesn't keep Nintendo from enjoying continued success with re-releasing old games at full prices. See for example the upcoming Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe, a $60 remake of a 2011 Wii game, originally priced at $50 (this was what Nintendo charged for new games at the time, when they were still trying to undercut the competition.) Note also Super Mario 3D All Stars, released 2020 with three full Mario games (via emulation), from 1996, 2002, and 2007, also for $60 price, but discontinued and no longer available since 2021. It was one of the best selling games in 2020. FWIW, can still be found on Amazon, but currently priced at $75.
- db48x 4y ago
  They have a handful of games that they can remake until the end of time, but for each of them there are probably a dozen games that they’ll never bother with.