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If what you said was what he was doing then people would be fine with it. It isn't. There are plenty examples of ideological uniformity on the right in media,

If what you said was what he was doing then people would be fine with it. It isn't. There are plenty examples of ideological uniformity on the right in media, politics, and large institutions, but I don't see him (or you) criticizing any of them or calling for change.

robomartin 4y ago
Make a lists of social networks, tv networks and universities. For each list, sort them into three columns based on ideology: Left, independent/balanced, Right. If you were intellectually honest about this, the number of entities on the Left will dwarf those in the other columns. That’s reality. When someone flips through channels on TV and 90% to 99% of the content is ideologically aligned to one side, that is damaging to a society. Your example is nothing less than ridiculous. Use race and gender instead of ideology and it might become obvious to you. For some reason people think of ideology in different terms. There is no difference. You do not want racial domination of institutions (by any race) any more than ideological (by any ideology).
- Eddy_Viscosity2 4y ago
  Another possibility here is that you're own perspective may be biased more than you appreciate. 99% of media content is left leaning? Really? You would really have to do some work redefining the left/right spectrum for that to be anything close to true. What about financial institutions, police forces, energy companies and other mega corporations. Where do they list in your rankings? Are you worried about ideological uniformity there and advocate that they work to be more representative of leftist ideals in the same way you want tv networks to do for conservative principles? When employees at starbucks or amazon get harrassed or fired by their employers for engaging in constitutionally protected activities like organizing a union, where was the right in saying that although they may not agree with them that they will defend their rights and that they don't support cancelling people for expressing their ideals. Was the right there on the side of railway workers who keep the economy running supporting their rights to strike or did they try and cancel them by forcefully taking those rights away? Which side was the media on? The gender and race thing gets a lot of air time on Tucker Carlson and Ben Shapiros shows, but there is a hell of lot more to the world than that.
  - robomartin 4y ago
    You are taking what I am saying way out of context. Make that list. Then check your assumptions. You can start here (which isn't at all an exhaustive list): https://guides.lib.umich.edu/c.php?g=637508&p=4462444 https://guides.lib.umich.edu/c.php?g=637508&p=4462444 And, in order to understand the nature and roots of the problem, please read this, by Politico, hardly a right-wing publication: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/25/media-bubble-real-journalism-jobs-east-coast-215048/ https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/25/media-bub... This article, about five years old, opened my eyes as to some of the mechanisms, root cause and effects of the kind of polarization seen in the media. And you are totally wrong about me. I am a Classical Liberal, maybe even on the side of Libertarian. It sounds like I might be right wing-leaning because it just so happens that the egregious acts, today, are overwhelmingly coming from the left. Right wingers did not spend a year burning down business districts and right wing politicians inciting people to behave like animals. You criticize that which is overwhelmingly wrong. In the last few years the bulk of it has been coming from the left, from Democrats. I have seen this tune play out in other countries where I lived when I was younger (in Latin America). What the left is doing here in the US today has been done before, multiple times. It is nothing less than evil. It is wrong. And it does not lead to good outcomes. This is a historical fact across multiple cultures all over the world. Take a very simple example of this: The bulk of the media, due to it's leftist alignment, has done very little reporting on the horrors of what is going on at the southern border. Right-wing outfits like Fox to full-tilt and talk about it all the time, which is to be expected. However, a huge portion of the audience has far more exposure to left-leaning media. Which means people, for the most part, have no idea what's going on. They are talking about it now because various affected states decided to load people on buses and send them to places living in denial. What's the reality? Our normal legal immigration quota is in the order of 1.5 million people per year. Over five million people have illegally entered the nation. We think it's more. There are folks who are not caught and counted, so, no way to know. We have no idea who these people are. During "normal" times (horrible concept), human trafficking for sex and other slavery across the same border amounted to somewhere between 20K and 40K people per year, mostly women and children. There is no way to know how much worse that got. We think 2023 could explode this number to as many as eight million people. These people, 100% of them, are, by definition, unemployed. Yet US unemployment statistics do not reflect this fact. They lie. Even worse, they consume vast resources at a time when the economy isn't doing well. Last I checked, we have not created five million NEW jobs --in addition to what existed before-- in order to be able to employ an additional five to eight million people. Those jobs do not exist --and one could argue will never exist-- which means these people will either remain unemployed or live under the shadows and be exploited. Then there's the drug trafficking, which goes hand-in-hand with human trafficking. It's off the charts. It is causing a path of illicit drug deaths throughout the nation that is hard to quantify. This has been going on for two years. And yet, the media has done nearly zero front-page reporting on this all this time. I have had conversations with people who only watch outfits like CNN. They had no clue. No idea. At all. They were horrified to discover it once they opened their minds to consuming a variety of news sources. Today they are starting to report it because it the problem has grown to such proportions that the truth is impossible to ignore. Now, slowly, people are getting some of the story. Yet, for two years, they actively shelved the news to protect this administration. That's the problem. You don't want media aligned with ANY IDEOLOGICAL SIDE and, worse, actively acting to protect and mold the narrative in their favor. I don't know why that is so hard to comprehend for some. I know it is human nature to defend your "tribe". Intelligent people capable of critical thinking can understand that such tribalism isn't good for anyone in the long run. Nations have gone full tilt from one extreme to the opposite, with horrible results. Imagine a reality where, in, say, fifty years, the ideological right takes control of all that is in the hands of the left in the US today. That would be horrible, just as bad as where we are headed today. I have been consistent about stating this. We do not want ideological domination by any faction. That's the change we need.

robomartin 4y ago

Make a lists of social networks, tv networks and universities. For each list, sort them into three columns based on ideology: Left, independent/balanced, Right. If you were intellectually honest about this, the number of entities on the Left will dwarf those in the other columns. That’s reality. When someone flips through channels on TV and 90% to 99% of the content is ideologically aligned to one side, that is damaging to a society. Your example is nothing less than ridiculous. Use race and gender instead of ideology and it might become obvious to you. For some reason people think of ideology in different terms. There is no difference. You do not want racial domination of institutions (by any race) any more than ideological (by any ideology).

Eddy_Viscosity2 4y ago
Another possibility here is that you're own perspective may be biased more than you appreciate. 99% of media content is left leaning? Really? You would really have to do some work redefining the left/right spectrum for that to be anything close to true. What about financial institutions, police forces, energy companies and other mega corporations. Where do they list in your rankings? Are you worried about ideological uniformity there and advocate that they work to be more representative of leftist ideals in the same way you want tv networks to do for conservative principles? When employees at starbucks or amazon get harrassed or fired by their employers for engaging in constitutionally protected activities like organizing a union, where was the right in saying that although they may not agree with them that they will defend their rights and that they don't support cancelling people for expressing their ideals. Was the right there on the side of railway workers who keep the economy running supporting their rights to strike or did they try and cancel them by forcefully taking those rights away? Which side was the media on? The gender and race thing gets a lot of air time on Tucker Carlson and Ben Shapiros shows, but there is a hell of lot more to the world than that.
- robomartin 4y ago
  You are taking what I am saying way out of context. Make that list. Then check your assumptions. You can start here (which isn't at all an exhaustive list): https://guides.lib.umich.edu/c.php?g=637508&p=4462444 https://guides.lib.umich.edu/c.php?g=637508&p=4462444 And, in order to understand the nature and roots of the problem, please read this, by Politico, hardly a right-wing publication: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/25/media-bubble-real-journalism-jobs-east-coast-215048/ https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/25/media-bub... This article, about five years old, opened my eyes as to some of the mechanisms, root cause and effects of the kind of polarization seen in the media. And you are totally wrong about me. I am a Classical Liberal, maybe even on the side of Libertarian. It sounds like I might be right wing-leaning because it just so happens that the egregious acts, today, are overwhelmingly coming from the left. Right wingers did not spend a year burning down business districts and right wing politicians inciting people to behave like animals. You criticize that which is overwhelmingly wrong. In the last few years the bulk of it has been coming from the left, from Democrats. I have seen this tune play out in other countries where I lived when I was younger (in Latin America). What the left is doing here in the US today has been done before, multiple times. It is nothing less than evil. It is wrong. And it does not lead to good outcomes. This is a historical fact across multiple cultures all over the world. Take a very simple example of this: The bulk of the media, due to it's leftist alignment, has done very little reporting on the horrors of what is going on at the southern border. Right-wing outfits like Fox to full-tilt and talk about it all the time, which is to be expected. However, a huge portion of the audience has far more exposure to left-leaning media. Which means people, for the most part, have no idea what's going on. They are talking about it now because various affected states decided to load people on buses and send them to places living in denial. What's the reality? Our normal legal immigration quota is in the order of 1.5 million people per year. Over five million people have illegally entered the nation. We think it's more. There are folks who are not caught and counted, so, no way to know. We have no idea who these people are. During "normal" times (horrible concept), human trafficking for sex and other slavery across the same border amounted to somewhere between 20K and 40K people per year, mostly women and children. There is no way to know how much worse that got. We think 2023 could explode this number to as many as eight million people. These people, 100% of them, are, by definition, unemployed. Yet US unemployment statistics do not reflect this fact. They lie. Even worse, they consume vast resources at a time when the economy isn't doing well. Last I checked, we have not created five million NEW jobs --in addition to what existed before-- in order to be able to employ an additional five to eight million people. Those jobs do not exist --and one could argue will never exist-- which means these people will either remain unemployed or live under the shadows and be exploited. Then there's the drug trafficking, which goes hand-in-hand with human trafficking. It's off the charts. It is causing a path of illicit drug deaths throughout the nation that is hard to quantify. This has been going on for two years. And yet, the media has done nearly zero front-page reporting on this all this time. I have had conversations with people who only watch outfits like CNN. They had no clue. No idea. At all. They were horrified to discover it once they opened their minds to consuming a variety of news sources. Today they are starting to report it because it the problem has grown to such proportions that the truth is impossible to ignore. Now, slowly, people are getting some of the story. Yet, for two years, they actively shelved the news to protect this administration. That's the problem. You don't want media aligned with ANY IDEOLOGICAL SIDE and, worse, actively acting to protect and mold the narrative in their favor. I don't know why that is so hard to comprehend for some. I know it is human nature to defend your "tribe". Intelligent people capable of critical thinking can understand that such tribalism isn't good for anyone in the long run. Nations have gone full tilt from one extreme to the opposite, with horrible results. Imagine a reality where, in, say, fifty years, the ideological right takes control of all that is in the hands of the left in the US today. That would be horrible, just as bad as where we are headed today. I have been consistent about stating this. We do not want ideological domination by any faction. That's the change we need.