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It would be beneficial to add a readme explaining what this is.

by TheAceOfHearts 4y ago

readthenotes1 4y ago
it's a nefarious underhanded dump to legetimize misspelling deprecate as depricate
- IntelMiner 4y ago
  Nefarious is pretty insulting. Software preservation is important
  - readthenotes1 4y ago
    Important enough to promulgate a wrong spelling of deprecate?
    - Jiocus 4y ago
      Absolutely.
eek2121 4y ago
Seems pretty spot on to me. Which part has you confused? Maybe Google Populous (game) if you don't know the title or "Dreamcast" if you don't know what that is.
Sakos 4y ago
The only google results about Populous and the Dreamcast refer back to this HN post and a comment-less Reddit post or two linking to the same repo. Mysterious. It doesn't look like Populous ever got a Dreamcast release either. edit: Oh, I dug around for LemonHaze and found this twitter post https://nitter.mint.lgbt/i/status/1607154272612896769 https://nitter.mint.lgbt/i/status/1607154272612896769 I think the title of the HN post is erroneous. It seems to be an unreleased Pocket PC port, which makes way more sense. edit2: The source for the code seems to be https://en.sega-dreamcast-info-games-preservation.com/liste-des-codes-source https://en.sega-dreamcast-info-games-preservation.com/liste-... where it's titled as "Source code of Populous for the Pocket PC system (Unreleased Windows CE Version)" Apparently WinCE games can be ported to Dreamcast too?
- tiernano 4y ago
  Dreamcast ran windows ce, so it would be easy (ish?) to port it.
  - helf 4y ago
    The Dreamcast didn’t come with CE. There was just a version that could be used /with/ the DC. For some reason people equate “compatible with Windows CE” stickers with “runs Windows CE when you turn it on”
    - safety1st 4y ago
      According to segaretro.org the Dreamcast did actually run an "optimized" version of WinCE (painful acronym) with DirectX. Some games ran on top of it but most ran a different OS that actually booted off of the game disc. https://segaretro.org/Windows_CE https://segaretro.org/Windows_CE
      - helf 4y ago
        From that link: “ In the end, Sega chose to go down a different route than what was originally planned - bundling simple operating systems within the discs themselves. Running games through Windows CE was still an option for developers, but most games used Sega's proprietary software instead. The limited adoption of Windows CE is often blamed on console programmers lacking the experience to deal with the OS, and a lack of advantages that Windows CE offered over the competition.” It doesn’t by default boot to CE. It /is/ an option though. But it doesn’t boot it from an internal ROM.
        djmips 4y ago
        Or having the experience to not want to deal with that OS
        Firmwarrior 4y ago
        Yeah, what an odd decision. I did a lot of work on CE back in the day, and I'm not a pro game dev by any means, but I don't know what advantage it would offer over any SDK that abstracted the hardware a little CE was a very lightweight OS that was mostly nice for making it easier to port drivers and apps from one embedded system to another Maybe Sega had some vague plans to turn the Dreamcast into a multipurpose family computer?

It would be beneficial to add a readme explaining what this is.

readthenotes1 4y ago

it's a nefarious underhanded dump to legetimize misspelling deprecate as depricate

IntelMiner 4y ago
Nefarious is pretty insulting. Software preservation is important
- readthenotes1 4y ago
  Important enough to promulgate a wrong spelling of deprecate?
  - Jiocus 4y ago
    Absolutely.

eek2121 4y ago

Seems pretty spot on to me. Which part has you confused? Maybe Google Populous (game) if you don't know the title or "Dreamcast" if you don't know what that is.

Sakos 4y ago

The only google results about Populous and the Dreamcast refer back to this HN post and a comment-less Reddit post or two linking to the same repo. Mysterious. It doesn't look like Populous ever got a Dreamcast release either. edit: Oh, I dug around for LemonHaze and found this twitter post https://nitter.mint.lgbt/i/status/1607154272612896769 https://nitter.mint.lgbt/i/status/1607154272612896769 I think the title of the HN post is erroneous. It seems to be an unreleased Pocket PC port, which makes way more sense. edit2: The source for the code seems to be https://en.sega-dreamcast-info-games-preservation.com/liste-des-codes-source https://en.sega-dreamcast-info-games-preservation.com/liste-... where it's titled as "Source code of Populous for the Pocket PC system (Unreleased Windows CE Version)" Apparently WinCE games can be ported to Dreamcast too?

tiernano 4y ago
Dreamcast ran windows ce, so it would be easy (ish?) to port it.
- helf 4y ago
  The Dreamcast didn’t come with CE. There was just a version that could be used /with/ the DC. For some reason people equate “compatible with Windows CE” stickers with “runs Windows CE when you turn it on”
  - safety1st 4y ago
    According to segaretro.org the Dreamcast did actually run an "optimized" version of WinCE (painful acronym) with DirectX. Some games ran on top of it but most ran a different OS that actually booted off of the game disc. https://segaretro.org/Windows_CE https://segaretro.org/Windows_CE
    - helf 4y ago
      From that link: “ In the end, Sega chose to go down a different route than what was originally planned - bundling simple operating systems within the discs themselves. Running games through Windows CE was still an option for developers, but most games used Sega's proprietary software instead. The limited adoption of Windows CE is often blamed on console programmers lacking the experience to deal with the OS, and a lack of advantages that Windows CE offered over the competition.” It doesn’t by default boot to CE. It /is/ an option though. But it doesn’t boot it from an internal ROM.
      - djmips 4y ago
        Or having the experience to not want to deal with that OS
        Firmwarrior 4y ago
        Yeah, what an odd decision. I did a lot of work on CE back in the day, and I'm not a pro game dev by any means, but I don't know what advantage it would offer over any SDK that abstracted the hardware a little CE was a very lightweight OS that was mostly nice for making it easier to port drivers and apps from one embedded system to another Maybe Sega had some vague plans to turn the Dreamcast into a multipurpose family computer?