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Agree on all points. The key thing the EU are ruling on here are phones. I replace my phone or laptop battery every 3 years at average! Does it need to be remo

Agree on all points. The key thing the EU are ruling on here are phones. I replace my phone or laptop battery every 3 years at average! Does it need to be removable for that? Hell no. Sticky tape, glued in I don't care. I will pay apple or whoever to replace it. 30 minutes of labour is fine for this interval! What pisses me off are the people who are too fucking cheap to pay for a phone battery from the manufacturer but will throw 10x the cost on trivial repairs on a premium car while whining about it.

rat9988 4y ago
Why should I pay for a battery from the manufacturer instead of other suppliers?
- janosdebugs 4y ago
  Because won't somebody think of the... Wait, no, I meant to say: "It's dangerous and a third party battery can set your phone on fire!" Also, "it will allow hackers to steal your data". /s As far as I can tell, the manufacturers are doing a pretty good job at occassionally setting your phone on fire and exposing your data themselves.
krolden 4y ago
Most issues with batreires in laptops and stuff come from vendor firmware that checks if its a genuine OEM part or not. Same with printer cartridges.
- mmis1000 4y ago
  Yep, call pros to replace them every 3 years? Probably okay. Device becomes trash after 3 years because battery is DRM-protected and no longer produced? EU should really f**k them hard about this behavior. It's 100% planned obsolescence. Log the producer of parts is okay but intentionally make them non functional is not.
  - gumboza 4y ago
    Oh I agree with that one entirely. One reason I buy apple shit is last year I got them to stuff a new battery in my old 6s which I bought in 2015 and they did it there and then in store. Second swap it has had.
- gumboza 4y ago
  No thats not the main issue. Most of the issues come from crap batteries not being anywhere near fit for purpose. I’ve swapped out enough (tens of the things) to see that as the average case. Most laptops just whine about third party batteries and you can just nuke the vendor battery junk to get rid of it.

rat9988 4y ago

Why should I pay for a battery from the manufacturer instead of other suppliers?

janosdebugs 4y ago
Because won't somebody think of the... Wait, no, I meant to say: "It's dangerous and a third party battery can set your phone on fire!" Also, "it will allow hackers to steal your data". /s As far as I can tell, the manufacturers are doing a pretty good job at occassionally setting your phone on fire and exposing your data themselves.

krolden 4y ago

Most issues with batreires in laptops and stuff come from vendor firmware that checks if its a genuine OEM part or not. Same with printer cartridges.

mmis1000 4y ago
Yep, call pros to replace them every 3 years? Probably okay. Device becomes trash after 3 years because battery is DRM-protected and no longer produced? EU should really f**k them hard about this behavior. It's 100% planned obsolescence. Log the producer of parts is okay but intentionally make them non functional is not.
- gumboza 4y ago
  Oh I agree with that one entirely. One reason I buy apple shit is last year I got them to stuff a new battery in my old 6s which I bought in 2015 and they did it there and then in store. Second swap it has had.
gumboza 4y ago
No thats not the main issue. Most of the issues come from crap batteries not being anywhere near fit for purpose. I’ve swapped out enough (tens of the things) to see that as the average case. Most laptops just whine about third party batteries and you can just nuke the vendor battery junk to get rid of it.