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AI art is more akin to uploading a copy of someone's work and claiming it is my own that inspired work. It would be one thing if the AI were actually trained l

AI art is more akin to uploading a copy of someone's work and claiming it is my own that inspired work. It would be one thing if the AI were actually trained like a human was and created unique artwork based on ideas given to it. The reality is it copy/pastes parts of images it found online.

BobbyJo 4y ago
What make you think human inspiration doesn't work the same way as image diffusers? To a degree we know we are compressing input features into our own latent space and conjuring them when producing our own works. The math may not be exactly the same, but the principles are eerily similar.
- Guvante 4y ago
  It isn't surprising given this rhetoric was created by AI art producers to avoid having to pay for their training sets.
  - BobbyJo 4y ago
    I'm basing this on the architecture of the models, not any rhetoric. How does a person draw inspiration in your words then?
concordDance 4y ago
I don't think you understand how ML models work at all.
- BobbyJo 4y ago
  I don't work with them professionally, but I've done several small projects using them, and even written smaller models from scratch. I wouldn't call myself an expert, but I definitely know more than nothing.
kergonath 4y ago
> It would be one thing if the AI were actually trained like a human was and created unique artwork based on ideas given to it. I am not sure you understand all this, because this is exactly what Stable Diffusion does. Give or take the “like a human does”, because we don’t understand how humans work. > The reality is it copy/pastes parts of images it found online. It does not. This is physically impossible; the pictures used during training are orders of magnitude larger than the model. It does not contain any description of those pictures used in training and you cannot get those pictures back.

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AI art is more akin to uploading a copy of someone's work and claiming it is my own that inspired work. It would be one thing if the AI were actually trained l

by Guvante 4y ago

BobbyJo 4y ago
What make you think human inspiration doesn't work the same way as image diffusers? To a degree we know we are compressing input features into our own latent space and conjuring them when producing our own works. The math may not be exactly the same, but the principles are eerily similar.
- Guvante 4y ago
  It isn't surprising given this rhetoric was created by AI art producers to avoid having to pay for their training sets.
  - BobbyJo 4y ago
    I'm basing this on the architecture of the models, not any rhetoric. How does a person draw inspiration in your words then?
concordDance 4y ago
I don't think you understand how ML models work at all.
- BobbyJo 4y ago
  I don't work with them professionally, but I've done several small projects using them, and even written smaller models from scratch. I wouldn't call myself an expert, but I definitely know more than nothing.
kergonath 4y ago
> It would be one thing if the AI were actually trained like a human was and created unique artwork based on ideas given to it. I am not sure you understand all this, because this is exactly what Stable Diffusion does. Give or take the “like a human does”, because we don’t understand how humans work. > The reality is it copy/pastes parts of images it found online. It does not. This is physically impossible; the pictures used during training are orders of magnitude larger than the model. It does not contain any description of those pictures used in training and you cannot get those pictures back.