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Re-distributing intimate material without the subjects permission is pretty much the definition of revenge porn.

Ygg2 4y ago
> In late 2020, a controversy emerged involving data from a laptop belonging to Hunter Biden that was abandoned at a Delaware computer shop.[1] The data was subsequently shared with the FBI, Republican operatives, and later the press.[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controvers... That's a very strange definition of revenge porn. It was made inadvertently by Hunter Biden, it wasn't used for blackmail and it is related to a bulk of other interesting email.
- belltaco 4y ago
  Revenge porn isn't necessarily always used for blackmail. Why didn't the FBI, Republican operatives, or the press blur Biden Jr.'s penis before making it public? It was obvious political vendetta. What public interest is served by leaking it unredacted? Definition of revenge porn from a quick googling is: >Revenge porn is the distribution of sexually explicit images or videos of individuals without their consent This fits the description 100%.
- NickNameNick 4y ago
  dictionary.com: "revenge porn - noun - revealing or sexually explicit images or videos of a person posted on the internet, typically by a former sexual partner, without the consent of the subject and in order to cause them distress or embarrassment." It's not a question of who took the photos. It's a question of whether the people sharing them had the permission of the subject to share them. While Blackmail may be a component of some revenge porn, it's not required by this or other definitions.
  - Ygg2 4y ago
    Ok, but say a public figure is involved in a scummy situation, and left their laptop detailing their shady dealings (along some naked pictures) at repair shop and forgot about it, but a journalist managed to get docs from said laptop including naked pictures, does it invalidate the whole cotnent of laptop as revenge porn? By point is, having naked pictures on your laptop don't make docs and other stuff found as revenge porn.
    - belltaco 4y ago
      You're misunderstanding the thread. So let me lay it out. The Biden campaign in 2020(they were not in power, Trump admin was) sent a list of tweets to Twitter asking them to take a look alleging that they violated Twitter's rules on revenge porn. Twitter took down those tweets. Matt Taibibi implied this was government/Twitter censorship, and the right wing went ape shit over it. People found the archived versions of those tweets, mainly from politician Republican influencers, and they were nothing except pictures of Hunter's penis. Nothing to do with his business dealings or emails on his laptop that were leaked. The Republican operatives who privately received the leaked laptop contents didn't even blur the private parts. Are they revenge porn? Arguably. Was this an example of government censorship, or censorship of political discourse? No. The Trump Whitehouse was also reporting problematic tweets to Twitter contacts for potential violation of Twitter terms. Nobody is claiming the Biden laptop business dealings, emails etc. were revenge porn.
      - Ygg2 4y ago
        > You're misunderstanding the thread. So let me lay it out. You're misrepresenting the story. One big omission is this: > On October 14, 2020, the New York Post published BIDEN SECRET EMAILS, an expose based on the contents of Hunter Biden’s abandoned laptop: > Twitter took extraordinary steps to suppress the story, removing links and posting warnings that it may be “unsafe.” They even blocked its transmission via direct message, a tool hitherto reserved for extreme cases, e.g. child pornography. https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598831212310601728 https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598831212310601728 https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598831435288563712 https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598831435288563712 > and they were nothing except pictures of Hunter's penis It wasn't. https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/ https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden... Find me a picture of penis in this news or prove that mtaibbi had somehow distorted this. They treated a legitimate news, that was obtained by gray means as a child porn and de-ranked it.

Ygg2 4y ago

> In late 2020, a controversy emerged involving data from a laptop belonging to Hunter Biden that was abandoned at a Delaware computer shop.[1] The data was subsequently shared with the FBI, Republican operatives, and later the press.[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controvers... That's a very strange definition of revenge porn. It was made inadvertently by Hunter Biden, it wasn't used for blackmail and it is related to a bulk of other interesting email.

belltaco 4y ago
Revenge porn isn't necessarily always used for blackmail. Why didn't the FBI, Republican operatives, or the press blur Biden Jr.'s penis before making it public? It was obvious political vendetta. What public interest is served by leaking it unredacted? Definition of revenge porn from a quick googling is: >Revenge porn is the distribution of sexually explicit images or videos of individuals without their consent This fits the description 100%.
NickNameNick 4y ago
dictionary.com: "revenge porn - noun - revealing or sexually explicit images or videos of a person posted on the internet, typically by a former sexual partner, without the consent of the subject and in order to cause them distress or embarrassment." It's not a question of who took the photos. It's a question of whether the people sharing them had the permission of the subject to share them. While Blackmail may be a component of some revenge porn, it's not required by this or other definitions.
- Ygg2 4y ago
  Ok, but say a public figure is involved in a scummy situation, and left their laptop detailing their shady dealings (along some naked pictures) at repair shop and forgot about it, but a journalist managed to get docs from said laptop including naked pictures, does it invalidate the whole cotnent of laptop as revenge porn? By point is, having naked pictures on your laptop don't make docs and other stuff found as revenge porn.
  - belltaco 4y ago
    You're misunderstanding the thread. So let me lay it out. The Biden campaign in 2020(they were not in power, Trump admin was) sent a list of tweets to Twitter asking them to take a look alleging that they violated Twitter's rules on revenge porn. Twitter took down those tweets. Matt Taibibi implied this was government/Twitter censorship, and the right wing went ape shit over it. People found the archived versions of those tweets, mainly from politician Republican influencers, and they were nothing except pictures of Hunter's penis. Nothing to do with his business dealings or emails on his laptop that were leaked. The Republican operatives who privately received the leaked laptop contents didn't even blur the private parts. Are they revenge porn? Arguably. Was this an example of government censorship, or censorship of political discourse? No. The Trump Whitehouse was also reporting problematic tweets to Twitter contacts for potential violation of Twitter terms. Nobody is claiming the Biden laptop business dealings, emails etc. were revenge porn.
    - Ygg2 4y ago
      > You're misunderstanding the thread. So let me lay it out. You're misrepresenting the story. One big omission is this: > On October 14, 2020, the New York Post published BIDEN SECRET EMAILS, an expose based on the contents of Hunter Biden’s abandoned laptop: > Twitter took extraordinary steps to suppress the story, removing links and posting warnings that it may be “unsafe.” They even blocked its transmission via direct message, a tool hitherto reserved for extreme cases, e.g. child pornography. https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598831212310601728 https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598831212310601728 https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598831435288563712 https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598831435288563712 > and they were nothing except pictures of Hunter's penis It wasn't. https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/ https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden... Find me a picture of penis in this news or prove that mtaibbi had somehow distorted this. They treated a legitimate news, that was obtained by gray means as a child porn and de-ranked it.