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Companies should cooperate when compelled so by law, not just cause. This gets into the space where many here knock Chinese companies as they are regularly dire

by kyrra 4y ago

Companies should cooperate when compelled so by law, not just cause. This gets into the space where many here knock Chinese companies as they are regularly directed partially by the CCP. The real question is, when does laws that apply only to the government, like the first amendment, start applying to private companies when the private companies are being directed by the government?

acdha 4y ago
Cooperation here means that they were enforcing their existing terms of service. That’s very different from legal compulsion.
- transcriptase 4y ago
  Why are 3 letter agencies paying Twitter to moderate their own site?
  - acdha 4y ago
    They aren’t moderating the site. The FBI was reporting things they felt were under the purview of their election security mandate but they weren’t generally pursuing TOS violations. If you’re referring to the administrative costs, those were a separate issue where U.S. law allows payment for the cost of complying with court ordered 2703(d) requests: https://www.techdirt.com/2022/12/20/no-the-fbi-is-not-paying-twitter-to-censor/ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/12/20/no-the-fbi-is-not-paying... Nothing in these dumps suggests that those requests are being abused.
themagician 4y ago
Companies should cooperate when they want to, and tell the government to !@#$ off when they don’t want to. Twitter, for me, is a great example of free speech. The government asks them to do things apparently all the time. Sometimes they do it, sometimes they don’t. Sometimes they even have a discussion about it internally. That is INCREDIBLE. Ultimately, Twitter became the primary communications vehicle of the President of the United States. They !@#$ing ban him. Power move. I’m sure many demands were made by all sorts of agencies to reinstate Trump’s account and they said, “No. !$@# off.” You want to talk about China and the CCP? Well, here’s a concrete example of something that, had it happened in China with Weibo, you know would have gotten dozens of people “disappeared”. But Twitter did it with zero recourse from the government. As the kids say these day, “Based.” Greatest example of free speech in action my life time.

by kyrra 4y ago

acdha 4y ago

Cooperation here means that they were enforcing their existing terms of service. That’s very different from legal compulsion.

transcriptase 4y ago
Why are 3 letter agencies paying Twitter to moderate their own site?
- acdha 4y ago
  They aren’t moderating the site. The FBI was reporting things they felt were under the purview of their election security mandate but they weren’t generally pursuing TOS violations. If you’re referring to the administrative costs, those were a separate issue where U.S. law allows payment for the cost of complying with court ordered 2703(d) requests: https://www.techdirt.com/2022/12/20/no-the-fbi-is-not-paying-twitter-to-censor/ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/12/20/no-the-fbi-is-not-paying... Nothing in these dumps suggests that those requests are being abused.

themagician 4y ago

Companies should cooperate when they want to, and tell the government to !@#$ off when they don’t want to. Twitter, for me, is a great example of free speech. The government asks them to do things apparently all the time. Sometimes they do it, sometimes they don’t. Sometimes they even have a discussion about it internally. That is INCREDIBLE. Ultimately, Twitter became the primary communications vehicle of the President of the United States. They !@#$ing ban him. Power move. I’m sure many demands were made by all sorts of agencies to reinstate Trump’s account and they said, “No. !$@# off.” You want to talk about China and the CCP? Well, here’s a concrete example of something that, had it happened in China with Weibo, you know would have gotten dozens of people “disappeared”. But Twitter did it with zero recourse from the government. As the kids say these day, “Based.” Greatest example of free speech in action my life time.