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I have to say I’m astonished at the casual dismissal of the blatant lies of the previous Twitter regime, their clear election manipulation, and the governments

I have to say I’m astonished at the casual dismissal of the blatant lies of the previous Twitter regime, their clear election manipulation, and the governments involvement in drawing attention to utterly trivial social media activity. The conspiracy theorist in me thinks the governments attention on small, inconsequential accounts was all a backstop to justify the narratives they were feeding to the press about Russian election manipulation and “misinformation”. I feel like a frog in the boiling pot watching the other frogs try to convince me there’s no danger. I hope you’re correct.

chamwislo 4y ago
This is how soft power works. You only need a few sock puppets to sway a crowd.
cactusplant7374 4y ago
> their clear election manipulation I’m confused here. I only see Republicans trying to manipulate elections with unsubstantiated voter fraud claims.
- refurb 4y ago
  I guess you haven't been following? FBI gets Hunter laptop Dec 2019, knows it's not a forgery. FBI proceeds to warn social media companies about "Russian disinformation campaigns" about a month or two before election. NY Post does story on Hunter laptop (which includes business dealing with Ukraine). "Former" intelligence agents go on media to say "this has all the markings of a disinformation campaign" (which they know 100% is a lie). Social media proceeds to ban a 100% factual story, about a presidential candidate weeks for an election. You don't see the issue?
  - cactusplant7374 4y ago
    How does a stolen laptop of Biden’s son change the election?
    - trentnix 4y ago
      Ask the 50 spook liars, including the formers heads of the CIA and FBI, that made the effort to release a statement calling it "Russian disinformation". They seemed to think it might have an impact.
    - refurb 4y ago
      Good question! Another way of asking that is - why was so much effort put into squashing the story if there is nothing there of concern?
acdha 4y ago
> I’m astonished at the casual dismissal of the blatant lies of the previous Twitter regime, their clear election manipulation Can you provide specific examples of these “blatant lies”? For example, Taibbi’s earlier dumps showed that the testimony to Congress was accurate.
- trentnix 4y ago
  “We don’t shadow ban”
  - acdha 4y ago
    Clearly true – as shown by the Twitter they followed their stated policies, as explained in the public interviews they did back in 2018. https://slate.com/technology/2018/05/twitter-will-start-hiding-tweets-that-detract-from-the-conversation.html https://slate.com/technology/2018/05/twitter-will-start-hidi... Bari Weiss tried to misrepresent what shadow banning means but especially here I’d expect people to be familiar with what the term means.
    - d23 4y ago
      I really hope this gets through to the person you’re responding to. This stuff isn’t hard to find. It feels like every time they make one of these threads it’s so full of misrepresentations that they might as well be spitting in the faces of their supporters.
    - cactusplant7374 4y ago
      Is there a theme here where Musk & co are trying to redefine what words mean to poison debate?

chamwislo 4y ago

This is how soft power works. You only need a few sock puppets to sway a crowd.

cactusplant7374 4y ago

> their clear election manipulation I’m confused here. I only see Republicans trying to manipulate elections with unsubstantiated voter fraud claims.

refurb 4y ago
I guess you haven't been following? FBI gets Hunter laptop Dec 2019, knows it's not a forgery. FBI proceeds to warn social media companies about "Russian disinformation campaigns" about a month or two before election. NY Post does story on Hunter laptop (which includes business dealing with Ukraine). "Former" intelligence agents go on media to say "this has all the markings of a disinformation campaign" (which they know 100% is a lie). Social media proceeds to ban a 100% factual story, about a presidential candidate weeks for an election. You don't see the issue?
- cactusplant7374 4y ago
  How does a stolen laptop of Biden’s son change the election?
  - trentnix 4y ago
    Ask the 50 spook liars, including the formers heads of the CIA and FBI, that made the effort to release a statement calling it "Russian disinformation". They seemed to think it might have an impact.
  - refurb 4y ago
    Good question! Another way of asking that is - why was so much effort put into squashing the story if there is nothing there of concern?

acdha 4y ago

> I’m astonished at the casual dismissal of the blatant lies of the previous Twitter regime, their clear election manipulation Can you provide specific examples of these “blatant lies”? For example, Taibbi’s earlier dumps showed that the testimony to Congress was accurate.

trentnix 4y ago
“We don’t shadow ban”
- acdha 4y ago
  Clearly true – as shown by the Twitter they followed their stated policies, as explained in the public interviews they did back in 2018. https://slate.com/technology/2018/05/twitter-will-start-hiding-tweets-that-detract-from-the-conversation.html https://slate.com/technology/2018/05/twitter-will-start-hidi... Bari Weiss tried to misrepresent what shadow banning means but especially here I’d expect people to be familiar with what the term means.
  - d23 4y ago
    I really hope this gets through to the person you’re responding to. This stuff isn’t hard to find. It feels like every time they make one of these threads it’s so full of misrepresentations that they might as well be spitting in the faces of their supporters.
  - cactusplant7374 4y ago
    Is there a theme here where Musk & co are trying to redefine what words mean to poison debate?