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The Hunter Biden laptop story was real. The FBI knew it was real. The FBI lied to corporations like Twitter to stop accounts from legitimate publications from

The Hunter Biden laptop story was real. The FBI knew it was real. The FBI lied to corporations like Twitter to stop accounts from legitimate publications from reporting on it right before an election where it certainly could have impacted the outcome. Twitter went even further and prevented people from exchanging the story with each other in DMs. I honestly don't see how you could be comfortable with this, unless you're willing to disregard their actions because they happen to protect the party you agree with at the moment; or because you're presuming that the FBI would never use this relationship to operate in bad faith. Twitter didn't go to the FBI to ask for verification, the FBI on their own accord decided to take their "intelligence" to Twitter for action that they desired. This is obviously backwards. If Twitter wants to call up the FBI for verification or for information on a particular subject, tweet, or account because they wanted to investigate.. that would obviously be fine. That is clearly not what is happening here.

stefan_ 4y ago
Ahh yes, all those tweets the FBI reported that Matt forgot to tell you were straight up revenge porn. I really wonder why they were deleted! If only he could have found out using, like, the Web Archive, as many others did afterwards. (It was the Trump government FBI, by the way. In case your timeline is a bit mixed up?)
- akira2501 4y ago
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  - turtleyacht 4y ago
    Even if flagged, isn't that just a -1? I've seen grey posts return to dark after an upvote before.
    - flagsrule 4y ago
      Well it's dead now and it was a very reasonable post. This site is full of bias.
  - creato 4y ago
    > You people are very quick to muddy the waters here. Funny, I’d say it was people that can’t seem to cite any evidence without dick pics that are “muddying the waters”. I’ve read these twitter files posts from Taibbi and Weiss. It’s all insinuations based on contact between government agencies and twitter. The actual content being discussed is not interesting. The biggest red flag this is all raising for me is why FBI agents are sitting around searching for small time election misinformation like talking about voting a day late. Is there nothing higher priority to work on? And how has twitter not automated finding such basic misinformation?
    - Jarwain 4y ago
      Mismatch in incentives and priority? My impression is that the FBI only has a team or two dedicated to these searches. However, it is much closer to their mandate to keep an eye out on election misinformation and otherwise "protect our democracy"
- Ygg2 4y ago
  > were straight up revenge porn. Citation needed. Even Wikipedia lists it as an abandoned laptop that was trawled for data. Trash as far as I know is legitimate object of search (e.g. police does it). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controvers...
  - ajross 4y ago
    The smoking gun email in the "Part 1" Twitter Files thread from Taibbi was a request from the Biden Campaign to look at a list of otherwise-undescribed-and-since-removed tweets. This was strongly implied to be a request for censorship of the laptop story. Then someone found an archived copy of all but one of the tweets, and they all turned out to be pictures of Hunter Biden's penis.
    - Ygg2 4y ago
      > Then someone found an archived copy of all but one of the tweets, and they all turned out to be pictures of Hunter Biden's penis. Yes, he left his images on laptop. That's not revenge porn, as far as I know. > The smoking gun email in the "Part 1" Twitter Files Don't quote me on that, but from my memory not only were links to Hunter deleted, but so were discussions of it from even reputable journalist. I think it was a Washington Post that discussed Hunter's laptop, and it got buried or deleted. That's only Part 1. They also marked Trump tweets as fake, even though they found some exonerating information and vice versa. Plus the weekly meetings with FBI/OGA (alias for CIA), around misinformation spreading tweets, etc. You basically have a government agency labeling stuff as misinformation for deranking/deletion. If that doesn't raise any First Amendment issues, I'm not sure what will? Capturing journalist and keeping them in horrible conditions? Water torture and organ transfer of said journalists?
      - NickNameNick 4y ago
        Re-distributing intimate material without the subjects permission is pretty much the definition of revenge porn.
thereare5lights 4y ago
Revenge porn is not a “real story” Figures like Rudy Giuliani had direct and personal access to the laptop and yet what bombshell evidence do we have today? This story is so damning that the tweets people on the right keep spreading are literally just revenge porn. Some “real story”.
- DontchaKnowit 4y ago
  The "real story" from the laptop had notjing to do with any pictures but rather emails that were recovered describing payments that were to be made to Joe Buden via Hunter as a bag man. Thats the only actually serious thing uncovered by the laptop
ajross 4y ago
> The FBI lied to [...] Twitter to stop [...] reporting on [The Hunder Biden laptop story] OK, that's the takeaway that Taibbi and Musk wants us to absorb. But... can you link to the actual spot in the (sigh) "Twitter Files" that actually shows this? Because like the grandparent poster did and reported, I looked for it. And it's not there. There's a bunch of mid-level bland communication that if you squint might be understood as a bunch of underlings carrying out orders in pursuit of that. Or it might just be a bunch of folks trying in good faith not to push a suspect story at a sensitive time. There is absolutely no evidence of the kind of conspiracy you allege here. It's just not there. Which given the sourcing (the CEO is directing the investigation!) means it probably doesn't exist within Twitter. It's just not there. Where's the meat here?

stefan_ 4y ago

Ahh yes, all those tweets the FBI reported that Matt forgot to tell you were straight up revenge porn. I really wonder why they were deleted! If only he could have found out using, like, the Web Archive, as many others did afterwards. (It was the Trump government FBI, by the way. In case your timeline is a bit mixed up?)

akira2501 4y ago
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- deleted 4y ago
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- turtleyacht 4y ago
  Even if flagged, isn't that just a -1? I've seen grey posts return to dark after an upvote before.
  - flagsrule 4y ago
    Well it's dead now and it was a very reasonable post. This site is full of bias.
- creato 4y ago
  > You people are very quick to muddy the waters here. Funny, I’d say it was people that can’t seem to cite any evidence without dick pics that are “muddying the waters”. I’ve read these twitter files posts from Taibbi and Weiss. It’s all insinuations based on contact between government agencies and twitter. The actual content being discussed is not interesting. The biggest red flag this is all raising for me is why FBI agents are sitting around searching for small time election misinformation like talking about voting a day late. Is there nothing higher priority to work on? And how has twitter not automated finding such basic misinformation?
  - Jarwain 4y ago
    Mismatch in incentives and priority? My impression is that the FBI only has a team or two dedicated to these searches. However, it is much closer to their mandate to keep an eye out on election misinformation and otherwise "protect our democracy"
Ygg2 4y ago
> were straight up revenge porn. Citation needed. Even Wikipedia lists it as an abandoned laptop that was trawled for data. Trash as far as I know is legitimate object of search (e.g. police does it). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controvers...
- ajross 4y ago
  The smoking gun email in the "Part 1" Twitter Files thread from Taibbi was a request from the Biden Campaign to look at a list of otherwise-undescribed-and-since-removed tweets. This was strongly implied to be a request for censorship of the laptop story. Then someone found an archived copy of all but one of the tweets, and they all turned out to be pictures of Hunter Biden's penis.
  - Ygg2 4y ago
    > Then someone found an archived copy of all but one of the tweets, and they all turned out to be pictures of Hunter Biden's penis. Yes, he left his images on laptop. That's not revenge porn, as far as I know. > The smoking gun email in the "Part 1" Twitter Files Don't quote me on that, but from my memory not only were links to Hunter deleted, but so were discussions of it from even reputable journalist. I think it was a Washington Post that discussed Hunter's laptop, and it got buried or deleted. That's only Part 1. They also marked Trump tweets as fake, even though they found some exonerating information and vice versa. Plus the weekly meetings with FBI/OGA (alias for CIA), around misinformation spreading tweets, etc. You basically have a government agency labeling stuff as misinformation for deranking/deletion. If that doesn't raise any First Amendment issues, I'm not sure what will? Capturing journalist and keeping them in horrible conditions? Water torture and organ transfer of said journalists?
    - NickNameNick 4y ago
      Re-distributing intimate material without the subjects permission is pretty much the definition of revenge porn.

thereare5lights 4y ago

Revenge porn is not a “real story” Figures like Rudy Giuliani had direct and personal access to the laptop and yet what bombshell evidence do we have today? This story is so damning that the tweets people on the right keep spreading are literally just revenge porn. Some “real story”.

DontchaKnowit 4y ago
The "real story" from the laptop had notjing to do with any pictures but rather emails that were recovered describing payments that were to be made to Joe Buden via Hunter as a bag man. Thats the only actually serious thing uncovered by the laptop

ajross 4y ago

> The FBI lied to [...] Twitter to stop [...] reporting on [The Hunder Biden laptop story] OK, that's the takeaway that Taibbi and Musk wants us to absorb. But... can you link to the actual spot in the (sigh) "Twitter Files" that actually shows this? Because like the grandparent poster did and reported, I looked for it. And it's not there. There's a bunch of mid-level bland communication that if you squint might be understood as a bunch of underlings carrying out orders in pursuit of that. Or it might just be a bunch of folks trying in good faith not to push a suspect story at a sensitive time. There is absolutely no evidence of the kind of conspiracy you allege here. It's just not there. Which given the sourcing (the CEO is directing the investigation!) means it probably doesn't exist within Twitter. It's just not there. Where's the meat here?