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boxed 4y ago
Seems my information is out of date. https://news.ucar.edu/132755/scientists-nail-down-average-temperature-last-ice-age https://news.ucar.edu/132755/scientists-nail-down-average-te... claims it's more like 5 degrees compared to pre-industrial levels (6 compared to now). Still though. If 5 degrees is the difference between the early 1800s and an ice age, that we've already done ~1 degree seems enormously alarming.
- __pache__ 4y ago
  That's what I thought. I've seen 10 degrees as well. Sorry man huge hard disagree. 100 trillion to maybe reduce temperature by a tiny tiny amount is clearly not worth it. "But but but, something might happen!" There's plenty already happening. Increase supply of healthcare, for example ...
  - boxed 4y ago
    You're confused. We shouldn't spending "100 trillion to maybe reduce temperature by a tiny tiny amount". We should spend that to not raise the temperate indefinitely. Clearly we can't just raise the temperate 50 degrees. Everyone dies then. But the no-climate-action idea will in fact end up there. It will just take centuries. So we have to put a line in the sand at some point. We literally can't go on pumping CO2 into the atmosphere and de-terraform Earth. We know roughly what is safe, and we're shooting way past it.
    - __pache__ 4y ago
      > You're confused. nope... > We should spend that to not raise the temperate indefinitely. indefinitely ...? > We know roughly what is safe we're not in any danger from our climate
      - boxed 4y ago
        > indefinitely ...? Yea. If we keep burning fossil fuels. I mean, they will run out, but it's not going to happen in a long time. Long enough for us to change the climate way past human survivability on most of Earth. > we're not in any danger from our climate What? Of course we are. That's the entire point. You lower the average temperature 6 (5 from pre-industrial levels) degrees and you've got an ice age. Half of Europe literally covered in several kilometers of ice! We've already raised the temperature 1 degree above baseline. That's a LOT.
        __pache__ 4y ago
        > Yea. If we keep burning fossil fuels. I mean, they will run out who said otherwise? > What? Of course we are. not really. > You lower the average temperature 6 thank god we have lots of earth-greening CO2.. > We've already raised the temperature 1 degree above baseline. That's a LOT. we're coming out of an ice age

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Seems my information is out of date. https://news.ucar.edu/132755/scientists-nail-down-average-temperature-last-ice-age https://news.ucar.edu/132755/scientists-nail-down-average-te... claims it's more like 5 degrees compared to pre-industrial levels (6 compared to now). Still though. If 5 degrees is the difference between the early 1800s and an ice age, that we've already done ~1 degree seems enormously alarming.

__pache__ 4y ago
That's what I thought. I've seen 10 degrees as well. Sorry man huge hard disagree. 100 trillion to maybe reduce temperature by a tiny tiny amount is clearly not worth it. "But but but, something might happen!" There's plenty already happening. Increase supply of healthcare, for example ...
- boxed 4y ago
  You're confused. We shouldn't spending "100 trillion to maybe reduce temperature by a tiny tiny amount". We should spend that to not raise the temperate indefinitely. Clearly we can't just raise the temperate 50 degrees. Everyone dies then. But the no-climate-action idea will in fact end up there. It will just take centuries. So we have to put a line in the sand at some point. We literally can't go on pumping CO2 into the atmosphere and de-terraform Earth. We know roughly what is safe, and we're shooting way past it.
  - __pache__ 4y ago
    > You're confused. nope... > We should spend that to not raise the temperate indefinitely. indefinitely ...? > We know roughly what is safe we're not in any danger from our climate
    - boxed 4y ago
      > indefinitely ...? Yea. If we keep burning fossil fuels. I mean, they will run out, but it's not going to happen in a long time. Long enough for us to change the climate way past human survivability on most of Earth. > we're not in any danger from our climate What? Of course we are. That's the entire point. You lower the average temperature 6 (5 from pre-industrial levels) degrees and you've got an ice age. Half of Europe literally covered in several kilometers of ice! We've already raised the temperature 1 degree above baseline. That's a LOT.
      - __pache__ 4y ago
        > Yea. If we keep burning fossil fuels. I mean, they will run out who said otherwise? > What? Of course we are. not really. > You lower the average temperature 6 thank god we have lots of earth-greening CO2.. > We've already raised the temperature 1 degree above baseline. That's a LOT. we're coming out of an ice age