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Maybe they're smarter and more knowledgeable than the average trader?

danaris 4y ago
This doesn't pass the sniff test. There's nothing about being a Congressperson that lends itself better to the kinds of knowledge or intelligence that would increase the chances of betting well on the stock market... ...except the knowledge that comes from a) knowing what legislation will be ahead of time, and b) getting "paid" in insider knowledge from companies that want favorable treatment. (And possibly other kinds of insider-trading-type knowledge; I'm not particularly familiar with the specific methods they use.)
- bardworx 4y ago
  Or they use a professional that routinely outperforms their specific benchmark.
- geysersam 4y ago
  > There's nothing about being a Congressperson that lends itself better to the kinds of knowledge or intelligence that would increase the chances of betting well on the stock market How do you know that? Their outcomes indicate otherwise. They're clearly in some regards quite exceptional people.
  - TheOtherHobbes 4y ago
    How do their exceptional investment insights fare after they leave Congress (and, for completeness, the Senate.)
    - geysersam 4y ago
      I don't know. It'd be interesting to know. But I imagine there's less public information about their investments after their terms end, no? In any case. I'm not saying there is no insider trading going on in Congress. After all, there are hundreds of representatives. Of course some are greedy idiots, and some even criminals. But the majority, and I believe thats a large majority, are honest people who care about the people they represent.
  - danaris 4y ago
    > Their outcomes indicate otherwise. This is assuming the consequent. There are two possible explanations being proposed for the observed outcome "Congresspeople do better than average at the stock market." I am proposing the explanation "they are engaging in insider trading," and proposing evidence to support that. You are proposing the explanation "they're just better at it", and giving as evidence solely the outcome we are attempting to explain. It's circular.
    - geysersam 4y ago
      Sure, we both lack evidence. However, my view is that people, even congresspeople, deserve the benefit of doubt.
- P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
  while I don't agree that they're better at trading, your response is clearly wrong here. A congress person is able to constantly make decisions with imperfect information and be successful doing it, one can imagine that skill could give them an edge when trading. But the reason I don't agree with it is because they're using 3rd part managers. It's far more likely that they're advising. However, the way to put this to bed is to compare their accounts with those of others being managed by the same team. do they out-perform, under-perform, or roughly match those other accounts? There's your answer.
ilyt 4y ago
At glance making money at non-engineering is more correlated with sociopathy than above average intelligence...

This doesn't pass the sniff test. There's nothing about being a Congressperson that lends itself better to the kinds of knowledge or intelligence that would increase the chances of betting well on the stock market... ...except the knowledge that comes from a) knowing what legislation will be ahead of time, and b) getting "paid" in insider knowledge from companies that want favorable treatment. (And possibly other kinds of insider-trading-type knowledge; I'm not particularly familiar with the specific methods they use.)

bardworx 4y ago
Or they use a professional that routinely outperforms their specific benchmark.
geysersam 4y ago
> There's nothing about being a Congressperson that lends itself better to the kinds of knowledge or intelligence that would increase the chances of betting well on the stock market How do you know that? Their outcomes indicate otherwise. They're clearly in some regards quite exceptional people.
- TheOtherHobbes 4y ago
  How do their exceptional investment insights fare after they leave Congress (and, for completeness, the Senate.)
  - geysersam 4y ago
    I don't know. It'd be interesting to know. But I imagine there's less public information about their investments after their terms end, no? In any case. I'm not saying there is no insider trading going on in Congress. After all, there are hundreds of representatives. Of course some are greedy idiots, and some even criminals. But the majority, and I believe thats a large majority, are honest people who care about the people they represent.
- danaris 4y ago
  > Their outcomes indicate otherwise. This is assuming the consequent. There are two possible explanations being proposed for the observed outcome "Congresspeople do better than average at the stock market." I am proposing the explanation "they are engaging in insider trading," and proposing evidence to support that. You are proposing the explanation "they're just better at it", and giving as evidence solely the outcome we are attempting to explain. It's circular.
  - geysersam 4y ago
    Sure, we both lack evidence. However, my view is that people, even congresspeople, deserve the benefit of doubt.
P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
while I don't agree that they're better at trading, your response is clearly wrong here. A congress person is able to constantly make decisions with imperfect information and be successful doing it, one can imagine that skill could give them an edge when trading. But the reason I don't agree with it is because they're using 3rd part managers. It's far more likely that they're advising. However, the way to put this to bed is to compare their accounts with those of others being managed by the same team. do they out-perform, under-perform, or roughly match those other accounts? There's your answer.

ilyt 4y ago

At glance making money at non-engineering is more correlated with sociopathy than above average intelligence...