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deserved or not, there is shadowbanning in effect on hn. If you disagree with people enough, you'll end up on the list for offering counterpoints. often it tak
by aliqot 4y ago
deserved or not, there is shadowbanning in effect on hn. If you disagree with people enough, you'll end up on the list for offering counterpoints.
often it takes bravery to disagree with the crowd, and often only those who are most passionate have the guts to disagree.
The funning thing about HN is, we're all typing with our pinkies out, so you can disagree but if you dont do it with the utmost literary elegance and most bulletproof logic, it doesn't matter how right you were. Instead, what matters is that for a moment you stepped outside the parameters of gentility and your comments will be held for further review... forever.
Bravery and fact are not always intertwined, but you will nonetheless pay the price for your bravery. Don't be brave here unless you're confident in your abilities of presenting a point covertly.
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- walnutclosefarm 4y agoIt was very mild stuff. Even if HN is shadowbanning, as you say, I can't imagine the comments in question drawing that action.
- tekla 4y agoHN admins have a very very VERY short fuse
- aliqot 4y agoAlso regardless what people say votes ARE being bot manipulated if you criticize the right power-posters. There's a list so far of a small handful of people, with an associated range of downvotes that will be incurred all at once as soon as the author notices. Initially I thought I was thinking too highly of myself, but when a 30 minute pause happens in someone's post history, and then shortly after their scathing rebuttal graces my reply the predicted downvotes arrive in short fashion within a small window of time. I saw it, I suspected it, I tested it. It's pointless to report 'thought leaders', without them here, and without their patronage of YC, a lot of followers would just follow them where they go. I would not be surprised if some of these 'power posters' have been given light moderation privileges.
- nkurz 4y ago> regardless what people say votes ARE being bot manipulated if you criticize the right power-posters My guess would be that downvotes like this happen occasionally, but there is no formal list, and no automated system involved. I also doubt it's officially or unofficially approved of by the site. What makes you think this is done systematically by "bots", rather than case-by-base by individuals loyal to the person that was criticized? > I would not be surprised if some of these 'power posters' have been given light moderation privileges. Dan has indeed confirmed that some users have "light moderation privileges": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31240711 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31240711. He mentions "longstanding HN users", which probably has some overlap with "power posters".
- dang 4y agoThat last comment doesn't refer to voting, so I'm not sure if it's related to the GP's point or not.
- dang 4y agoI'd be happy to tell you what's happening but I don't understand what you're saying. It would help if you'd mention specific links.
- dang 4y agoIt doesn't feel very short.
- homeland221 4y agoHave been here for more than 8+ years. I noticed HN has started to be very bubble-like though at least the biased-conforming opinions still from time to time has reference cited. But if it is purely opinions and logical one, it gets downvoted or marked as dead for not conforming to group-thinks that specific type of HN readers disagree with. Nowadays I just rarely to contribute and just throw away accounts after a couple months or 1-2 years.