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Can anyone tell me the status of Kindle DRM? I want to buy some kindle only books but don't own a kindle. Is this even doable?

blackoil 4y ago
Not the answer you seek, but Kindle has apps for major platforms and a web based viewer.
- themadturk 4y ago
  The problem is that the latest versions of the Amazon reader for PC and Mac don't download the books in a format compatible with Calibre's DeDRM scripts. This is compounded by Amazon flipping off the choice to always update the software automatically (yes, it's stated as "always update automatically" if checked), so the first thing you have to do when starting up is go into settings and make sure the checkbox is cleared.
- yellow_lead 4y ago
  Still useful - thanks!
- vrotaru 4y ago
  The web based reader will refuse to display some books, unfortunately. In my case this was the sort of book than can be only realistically read on a big screen tablet, not on a Kindle. Well, I've shrugged and downloaded the pdf from libgen
markx2 4y ago
There are plugins - a search will find them - you can use with Calibre to remove DRM. https://calibre-ebook.com/ https://calibre-ebook.com/
- rdl 4y ago
  I don’t think there is an easy way to DeDRM the latest kindle format used by the Mac/pc and iOS reader, and there is no easy way to download all kindle books in your account for “transfer to device via usb” for e-ink devices all at once. I’m trying to archive my 4k or so kindle books (already did a similar number of audible using openaudible) because I don’t trust Amazon to preserve access to them indefinitely.
  - Leherenn 4y ago
    You can however still download and use an older version of the kindle program (at least on windows), which download the files with the old DRM scheme. It's one by one though.
    - themadturk 4y ago
      You can find older Kindle versions for Mac as well without too much effort.
      - rdl 4y ago
        Didn't work very well on M1 mac with latest OS when I tried but I can probably run it on x86 somewhere.
        themadturk 4y ago
        I looked and I'm running 1.30.0. It wants to update every time I start it, but I just say no and it runs (slowly) but fine.
        themadturk 4y ago
        I’m away from my M1 Mac at the moment so I’m not sure which older version of Kindle I ended up installing, but it worked fine to download my books, which was all I needed it to do.
        cafeinux 4y ago
        QEMU might be an answer. Not a sexy one, but DRM has never been a sexy issue.
    - kcartlidge 4y ago
      Anecdotally, I've become aware that the Windows Kindle installer version 1.17 works fine for downloading your paid-for Kindle books and format-shifting them or making a personal back-up in a more open form. That information was current about a year or so ago; hopefully that version has not been hobbled since. Also, disable auto-updating. I strongly suggest you only use it for your own purchases. Authors need to heat and eat too.
teo_zero 4y ago
This is indeed how I have read books, recently. I installed an old Kindle app on the PC, and configured it with my Amazon account. I download the books through the app, then start Calibre with the deDRM plugin which will find my private key directly in the Kindle directory, and convert the books to epub. I then send them to my Kobo reader via USB.

blackoil 4y ago

Not the answer you seek, but Kindle has apps for major platforms and a web based viewer.

themadturk 4y ago
The problem is that the latest versions of the Amazon reader for PC and Mac don't download the books in a format compatible with Calibre's DeDRM scripts. This is compounded by Amazon flipping off the choice to always update the software automatically (yes, it's stated as "always update automatically" if checked), so the first thing you have to do when starting up is go into settings and make sure the checkbox is cleared.
yellow_lead 4y ago
Still useful - thanks!
vrotaru 4y ago
The web based reader will refuse to display some books, unfortunately. In my case this was the sort of book than can be only realistically read on a big screen tablet, not on a Kindle. Well, I've shrugged and downloaded the pdf from libgen

markx2 4y ago

There are plugins - a search will find them - you can use with Calibre to remove DRM. https://calibre-ebook.com/ https://calibre-ebook.com/

rdl 4y ago
I don’t think there is an easy way to DeDRM the latest kindle format used by the Mac/pc and iOS reader, and there is no easy way to download all kindle books in your account for “transfer to device via usb” for e-ink devices all at once. I’m trying to archive my 4k or so kindle books (already did a similar number of audible using openaudible) because I don’t trust Amazon to preserve access to them indefinitely.
- Leherenn 4y ago
  You can however still download and use an older version of the kindle program (at least on windows), which download the files with the old DRM scheme. It's one by one though.
  - themadturk 4y ago
    You can find older Kindle versions for Mac as well without too much effort.
    - rdl 4y ago
      Didn't work very well on M1 mac with latest OS when I tried but I can probably run it on x86 somewhere.
      - themadturk 4y ago
        I looked and I'm running 1.30.0. It wants to update every time I start it, but I just say no and it runs (slowly) but fine.
      - themadturk 4y ago
        I’m away from my M1 Mac at the moment so I’m not sure which older version of Kindle I ended up installing, but it worked fine to download my books, which was all I needed it to do.
      - cafeinux 4y ago
        QEMU might be an answer. Not a sexy one, but DRM has never been a sexy issue.
  - kcartlidge 4y ago
    Anecdotally, I've become aware that the Windows Kindle installer version 1.17 works fine for downloading your paid-for Kindle books and format-shifting them or making a personal back-up in a more open form. That information was current about a year or so ago; hopefully that version has not been hobbled since. Also, disable auto-updating. I strongly suggest you only use it for your own purchases. Authors need to heat and eat too.

teo_zero 4y ago

This is indeed how I have read books, recently. I installed an old Kindle app on the PC, and configured it with my Amazon account. I download the books through the app, then start Calibre with the deDRM plugin which will find my private key directly in the Kindle directory, and convert the books to epub. I then send them to my Kobo reader via USB.