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> How can you possibly know what musk wants or thinks? This sounds like what you want, maybe what you want him to want. I don't know, maybe because he has come

> How can you possibly know what musk wants or thinks? This sounds like what you want, maybe what you want him to want. I don't know, maybe because he has come out and said it? https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/27/twitter-cannot-become-a-free-for-all-hellscape-musk-tells-advertisers.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/27/twitter-cannot-become-a-free... Quoting: “The reason I acquired Twitter is because it is important to the future of civilization to have a common digital town square, where a wide range of beliefs can be debated in a healthy manner, without resorting to violence,” “There is currently great danger that social media will splinter into far right wing and far left wing echo chambers that generate more hate and divide our society.” How about you take the time to research before belittling people?

jemmyw 4y ago
He's said many things. He's said inconsistent things. For all we know he purchased Twitter just to shutdown that elon jet account. > How about you take the time to research before belittling people? My comment wasn't meant to belittle you or be a personal attack. My wording was borne of frustration. You and I cannot know what Musk thinks or wants. Reading and researching him isn't helpful either, he is a public persona and manages his PR. Not well recently IMO, but previously quite well. That means you absolutely cannot take at face value what he says. I'd say look to his actions, but they are all over the place too. He certainly doesn't seem to be taking Twitter in the direction of brining any kind of union between the left and right, unless his plan is to make a common enemy for everyone. Again, I'm not sure how wise it is to speculate.
- robomartin 4y ago
  > You and I cannot know what Musk thinks or wants Well, maybe you don't. I worked with him for a couple of years. Some of the technology I helped develop goes to the International Space Station with some frequency. I won't say I understand him. I can say he is nowhere close to being an idiot. Sometimes people who accomplish great things can and do pass for complete whacko's until everyone is actually able to comprehend what they were trying to accomplish. Landing a rocket is a perfect example of this. The hatred he caught for even daring to suggest this could be done was incredible. > I'd say look to his actions, but they are all over the place too. He certainly doesn't seem to be taking Twitter in the direction of brining any kind of union between the left and right, unless his plan is to make a common enemy for everyone. Again, I'm not sure how wise it is to speculate. Rather than repeat myself: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34131719 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34131719 If you are a software developer of sufficient experience you might have had the experience of having to work with a codebase that had rotten, putrid stuff at the core. The process to fix something like that isn't clean, linear or logical. It is dirty and fully of surprises. You often end-up breaking it before you fix it. Life is like that most of the time. Fixing Twitter is definitely like that. The man is very clear on his ideology. He isn't on the left or the right. And that's good. Something like having a leftist FBI pay Twitter millions of dollars to muck with accounts and posts should make everyone around the world take pause. If they are willing to do this to their own population, think what they are likely willing to do to others. Do not be blinded by ideology. Think about a scenario where the opposite ideology has control in order to understand why pushing for one side or the other isn't good for anyone. We do not want ANY government organization controlling ANY media organization. Not in the US. Not anywhere in the world. What has been revealed so far makes that nexus very clear. Fixing it will not be easy. Be glad he is willing to take the hatred and all else that comes with that job. If we are lucky this will transform social and conventional media forever and in a good way. Here's hoping.
  - jemmyw 4y ago
    The problem is I don't particularly want any media organisation controlling any media organisation either. I don't want Twitter, a private org, to be the public space. Saying that, I don't use Twitter, I've never really seen the point of it. I agree with "if we're lucky", but in a different way - lucky for me would be that this causes a transformation whereby distributed services become popular enough to be self sustaining and interesting. I doubt they'll ever be dominant, that doesn't matter, I will use them (lightly).

jemmyw 4y ago

He's said many things. He's said inconsistent things. For all we know he purchased Twitter just to shutdown that elon jet account. > How about you take the time to research before belittling people? My comment wasn't meant to belittle you or be a personal attack. My wording was borne of frustration. You and I cannot know what Musk thinks or wants. Reading and researching him isn't helpful either, he is a public persona and manages his PR. Not well recently IMO, but previously quite well. That means you absolutely cannot take at face value what he says. I'd say look to his actions, but they are all over the place too. He certainly doesn't seem to be taking Twitter in the direction of brining any kind of union between the left and right, unless his plan is to make a common enemy for everyone. Again, I'm not sure how wise it is to speculate.

robomartin 4y ago
> You and I cannot know what Musk thinks or wants Well, maybe you don't. I worked with him for a couple of years. Some of the technology I helped develop goes to the International Space Station with some frequency. I won't say I understand him. I can say he is nowhere close to being an idiot. Sometimes people who accomplish great things can and do pass for complete whacko's until everyone is actually able to comprehend what they were trying to accomplish. Landing a rocket is a perfect example of this. The hatred he caught for even daring to suggest this could be done was incredible. > I'd say look to his actions, but they are all over the place too. He certainly doesn't seem to be taking Twitter in the direction of brining any kind of union between the left and right, unless his plan is to make a common enemy for everyone. Again, I'm not sure how wise it is to speculate. Rather than repeat myself: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34131719 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34131719 If you are a software developer of sufficient experience you might have had the experience of having to work with a codebase that had rotten, putrid stuff at the core. The process to fix something like that isn't clean, linear or logical. It is dirty and fully of surprises. You often end-up breaking it before you fix it. Life is like that most of the time. Fixing Twitter is definitely like that. The man is very clear on his ideology. He isn't on the left or the right. And that's good. Something like having a leftist FBI pay Twitter millions of dollars to muck with accounts and posts should make everyone around the world take pause. If they are willing to do this to their own population, think what they are likely willing to do to others. Do not be blinded by ideology. Think about a scenario where the opposite ideology has control in order to understand why pushing for one side or the other isn't good for anyone. We do not want ANY government organization controlling ANY media organization. Not in the US. Not anywhere in the world. What has been revealed so far makes that nexus very clear. Fixing it will not be easy. Be glad he is willing to take the hatred and all else that comes with that job. If we are lucky this will transform social and conventional media forever and in a good way. Here's hoping.
- jemmyw 4y ago
  The problem is I don't particularly want any media organisation controlling any media organisation either. I don't want Twitter, a private org, to be the public space. Saying that, I don't use Twitter, I've never really seen the point of it. I agree with "if we're lucky", but in a different way - lucky for me would be that this causes a transformation whereby distributed services become popular enough to be self sustaining and interesting. I doubt they'll ever be dominant, that doesn't matter, I will use them (lightly).