I get where you're coming from, folks like Vaclav Smil have talked about how the haber bosch process is arguably what's kept 2/3 of human population alive ( htt

I get where you're coming from, folks like Vaclav Smil have talked about how the haber bosch process is arguably what's kept 2/3 of human population alive ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=3013&v=5guXaWwQpe4&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=3013&v=5guXaWwQpe4&feature=y... ). The issues are also: - Thinking beyond the anthropocentric and realize we've created many ocean dead zones: e.g. https://oceantoday.noaa.gov/happenowdeadzone/ https://oceantoday.noaa.gov/happenowdeadzone/ . Think about what this'll mean in terms of ocean temperature in life within our lifetimes. - Many farmsites simply use way too much nitrogen, possibly impacting human drinking water (one good person to follow in Iowa is Chris Jones ( https://mobile.twitter.com/RiverRaccoon/status/1541487782933270531?t=axlZzWPxWOM1mMR5OtyBCw&s=09 https://mobile.twitter.com/RiverRaccoon/status/1541487782933... ) and Silvia Secchi ( https://mobile.twitter.com/ProfSecchi https://mobile.twitter.com/ProfSecchi ) - Despite the above the predicament of deciding to use nitrogen inputs during adverse weather conditions (curious to hear about the alternatives here, from what I see even smallholder farmers that try to minimize nitrogen input still use a bit of it). - The haber bosch process itself, and industries seeking to find alternatives to produce ammonia gas (iirc likely used in making diesel DEF fluid urea - https://newatlas.com/energy/green-ammonia-phosphonium-production/ https://newatlas.com/energy/green-ammonia-phosphonium-produc... ). - The article also cites norman borlaug, of which there's plenty of questions to ask around the economic and ecological narratives around that work - e.g. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10460-022-10325-2 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10460-022-10325-2 and likely 'the violence of the green revolution' by vandana shiva, and 'the globalization of wheat' https://upittpress.org/books/9780822947349/ https://upittpress.org/books/9780822947349/