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TulliusCicero says >"College students are adults, why ... is the college managing what they do off campus at all? ... That Americans have become increasingly ok

TulliusCicero says >"College students are adults, why ... is the college managing what they do off campus at all? ... That Americans have become increasingly okay with colleges being surrogate parents for literal adults is just bizarre."< Well, college students are mostly not adults. They are young, inexperienced and incompletely developed intellectually and emotionally. This is nothing new and colleges know much more about this than HN does. It was the same way when I was in college and it will remain so as long as we have colleges. Colleges have always had to keep an eye on students and rein in problematic behavior.

clnq 4y ago
College-aged students are called young adults. And they definitely are. Infantalization of young adults is not good for their development in my opinion and experience.
quanticle 4y ago
They are young, inexperienced and incompletely developed intellectually and emotionally. College is supposed to be the place where they can gain that experience and develop intellectually and emotionally by doing things, including things that result in negative consequences. Instead, what Stanford is doing is infantilizing its students in a manner that will make them incapable of displaying personal initiative and handling disputes like mature adults. God forbid that a Stanford student actually demonstrate that they've grown, in terms of social skills and emotional maturity, by doing something as adult as inviting a bunch of people over for a party.
TulliusCicero 4y ago
> It was the same way when I was in college and it will remain so as long as we have colleges. Colleges have always had to keep an eye on students and rein in problematic behavior. Except we know this is not true, because plenty of other countries don't expect universities to micromanage their students' personal lives. Your comment is a great example of, "well this is how it currently works in America, therefore it must be this way universally for all time." Please try to account for other countries existing before issuing sweeping generalizations about human nature. There's more to the world than just the US.
- giardini 4y ago
  Do not put words in my mouth. TulliusCicero says >"Your comment is a great example of, 'well this is how it currently works in America..."<" Yes, this is part of what I was saying. Another part (also implied) is "that is how it was when I went to college (in USA)...". There are many underlying unspoken implications in speech, I haven't the time to tell you all of them for this particular sentence nor do I think that you would be interested. >"...therefore it must be this way universally for all time.'"*< No, this is NOT what I was saying. YOU implied this and YOU said this. You are more eloquent and communication speeds up when you speak for yourself. Do not speak for me.

clnq 4y ago

College-aged students are called young adults. And they definitely are. Infantalization of young adults is not good for their development in my opinion and experience.

quanticle 4y ago

They are young, inexperienced and incompletely developed intellectually and emotionally. College is supposed to be the place where they can gain that experience and develop intellectually and emotionally by doing things, including things that result in negative consequences. Instead, what Stanford is doing is infantilizing its students in a manner that will make them incapable of displaying personal initiative and handling disputes like mature adults. God forbid that a Stanford student actually demonstrate that they've grown, in terms of social skills and emotional maturity, by doing something as adult as inviting a bunch of people over for a party.

TulliusCicero 4y ago

> It was the same way when I was in college and it will remain so as long as we have colleges. Colleges have always had to keep an eye on students and rein in problematic behavior. Except we know this is not true, because plenty of other countries don't expect universities to micromanage their students' personal lives. Your comment is a great example of, "well this is how it currently works in America, therefore it must be this way universally for all time." Please try to account for other countries existing before issuing sweeping generalizations about human nature. There's more to the world than just the US.

giardini 4y ago
Do not put words in my mouth. TulliusCicero says >"Your comment is a great example of, 'well this is how it currently works in America..."<" Yes, this is part of what I was saying. Another part (also implied) is "that is how it was when I went to college (in USA)...". There are many underlying unspoken implications in speech, I haven't the time to tell you all of them for this particular sentence nor do I think that you would be interested. >"...therefore it must be this way universally for all time.'"*< No, this is NOT what I was saying. YOU implied this and YOU said this. You are more eloquent and communication speeds up when you speak for yourself. Do not speak for me.