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I hate football, and I paid over 300k in taxes last year... Edit: not sure why I'm being down voted. I was an Ethereum ICO buyer and I cashed some out last ye

I hate football, and I paid over 300k in taxes last year... Edit: not sure why I'm being down voted. I was an Ethereum ICO buyer and I cashed some out last year. I hate that my tax dollars are going to football.

bumby 4y ago
I think the downvoting is in part that whether or not you like something may not be material to the discussion. If you don’t like police/schools/highways it doesn’t mean you shouldn’t fund it with tax dollars. I think the central argument is whether or not a stadium is a public good and worthy of tax funds.
- bladelessninja2 4y ago
  How did you get from stadium to police? The whole idea why people organize themselves in countries is to ensure internal and external safety and thus that everyone pay taxes for police, army and courts. Everything else is an addition and in my opinion even undesired to fund by whole community - you can always organize fundraiser or start a private enterprise for such things.
  - bumby 4y ago
    I was interesting that to some people (not me, though) a stadium is a public good and this worthy of public tax dollars to support. Just like the police or schools.
    - bladelessninja2 4y ago
      Like you said: it's the matter of opinion, public safety, though, is not.
      - bumby 4y ago
        Then use schools as an example. Or utilities. It’s not hinged on whether or not it’s a a safety issue, it hinges on whether it’s considered a public good.
        bladelessninja2 4y ago
        I have suspicion you haven't read my first comment in this thread.
        bumby 4y ago
        Possibly not, as it’s not inline with this. But I’m not not sure it negates the point that whether or not an individual values a particular thing does not determine if it’s a public good.
        bladelessninja2 4y ago
        I repeat: public safety is THE reason why we organize in countries, so police, army, justice system is in COMPLETELY different category - it is something essential, the rest is disputable. That's why you cannot compare them with, e.g. schools, there are decent countries without public education, yet, there is no serious country without police/army/courts.
        bumby 4y ago
        This still does not negate the fact that citizens also organize other public goods. Just because an individual deems them non-essential does not mean they aren’t public goods. As public goods, the collective citizenry has deemed them worthy of public funding. Libraries are not safety essential, yet they are still public goods. Whether or not they are ubiquitous or “essential to safety” has no bearing on whether they are public goods anymore than it matters if a singular individual disagrees with that designation.
        bladelessninja2 4y ago

bumby 4y ago

I think the downvoting is in part that whether or not you like something may not be material to the discussion. If you don’t like police/schools/highways it doesn’t mean you shouldn’t fund it with tax dollars. I think the central argument is whether or not a stadium is a public good and worthy of tax funds.

bladelessninja2 4y ago
How did you get from stadium to police? The whole idea why people organize themselves in countries is to ensure internal and external safety and thus that everyone pay taxes for police, army and courts. Everything else is an addition and in my opinion even undesired to fund by whole community - you can always organize fundraiser or start a private enterprise for such things.
- bumby 4y ago
  I was interesting that to some people (not me, though) a stadium is a public good and this worthy of public tax dollars to support. Just like the police or schools.
  - bladelessninja2 4y ago
    Like you said: it's the matter of opinion, public safety, though, is not.
    - bumby 4y ago
      Then use schools as an example. Or utilities. It’s not hinged on whether or not it’s a a safety issue, it hinges on whether it’s considered a public good.
      - bladelessninja2 4y ago
        I have suspicion you haven't read my first comment in this thread.
        bumby 4y ago
        Possibly not, as it’s not inline with this. But I’m not not sure it negates the point that whether or not an individual values a particular thing does not determine if it’s a public good.
        bladelessninja2 4y ago
        I repeat: public safety is THE reason why we organize in countries, so police, army, justice system is in COMPLETELY different category - it is something essential, the rest is disputable. That's why you cannot compare them with, e.g. schools, there are decent countries without public education, yet, there is no serious country without police/army/courts.
        bumby 4y ago
        This still does not negate the fact that citizens also organize other public goods. Just because an individual deems them non-essential does not mean they aren’t public goods. As public goods, the collective citizenry has deemed them worthy of public funding. Libraries are not safety essential, yet they are still public goods. Whether or not they are ubiquitous or “essential to safety” has no bearing on whether they are public goods anymore than it matters if a singular individual disagrees with that designation.
        bladelessninja2 4y ago