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> they're doing torchhikes through the area near Nuremberg on their meetups And? > they send emails through relays with hostnames like "Wolfsschanze" A singl

> they're doing torchhikes through the area near Nuremberg on their meetups And? > they send emails through relays with hostnames like "Wolfsschanze" A single developer has a private machine named this. There is no plural "they" here. > devs with official suckless flair post on [website that's basically a clone of HN] complaining about "cultural marxism". I believe the flair is kind of "sticky" on Lobsters, so that's probably more of an accident than anything else. Regardless, it's a single developer voicing their personal opinion (the same as the one with the "Wolfsschanze" hostname) and there is no plural "they" here either.

bitwize 4y ago
"Cultural marxism" is a Nazi dogwhistle tho
- Beltalowda 4y ago
  The number "88" can be. Norse mythology can be. A shaven head can be. Military boots can be. Lots of things can be, but you need look at the context. The entire point of a "dogwhistle" is that it looks innocent and that it can be easily confused as such, and this automatically means there are also plenty of innocent uses of such things. A "X is a dog-whistle for Y" assertion is meaningless. Plus, "Vaguely right-wing" or even "extreme right-wing" is not identical to "Nazi".
  - detaro 4y ago
    Without context, maybe. But we have the context here, and so even if you pretend there is an actively used other sense it's patently obvious that the term is used in the "evil leftist world-conspiracy" sense.
    - Beltalowda 4y ago
      Having read the "cultural Marxism" thread, I did not get the impression of "Nazi". I'd have to go find it, but I thought it was stupid and wrong, but really not that bad – certainly not as bad as people make it out to be, which just seems to hinge on the usage of a particular phrase. Even "evil leftist world-conspiracy" doesn't really apply IIRC, which is not the same as "Nazi" in any case. Have people forgotten that the genocide of millions of people was at the core of Nazi ideology?
      - l3uwin 4y ago
        [dead]
  - bitwize 4y ago
    Kulturbolschewismus (cultural bolshevism) was a Nazi coinage used to refer to a sinister Jewish conspiracy to undermine German culture with Bolshevik elements. The cultural Marxism meme is as explicitly Nazi as is "sieg heil" and "Arbeit macht frei".
detaro 4y ago
Lobsters hats are not the same as e.g. reddit flairs, but rather something to specifically turn on when speaking in its context: "A hat is a formal, verified, way of posting a comment while speaking for a project, organization, or company. Each user may have multiple hats, one of which may be selected to be worn when posting a comment or sending a private message."
- Beltalowda 4y ago
  Yes, I am aware. But I believe how it works in the UI is that you select it for a post and then it will get automatically applied for all new posts until you turn it off (i.e. it's sticky, either for the thread or globally). Or at least, that's what I've been told as I don't have any "hats". So, it's pretty easy to accidentally apply it. There is no single person who can speak "for" suckless in the same way some rep can speak "for" Microsoft or Y Combinator or whatnot, so that description doesn't really apply in the first place.

bitwize 4y ago

"Cultural marxism" is a Nazi dogwhistle tho

Beltalowda 4y ago
The number "88" can be. Norse mythology can be. A shaven head can be. Military boots can be. Lots of things can be, but you need look at the context. The entire point of a "dogwhistle" is that it looks innocent and that it can be easily confused as such, and this automatically means there are also plenty of innocent uses of such things. A "X is a dog-whistle for Y" assertion is meaningless. Plus, "Vaguely right-wing" or even "extreme right-wing" is not identical to "Nazi".
- detaro 4y ago
  Without context, maybe. But we have the context here, and so even if you pretend there is an actively used other sense it's patently obvious that the term is used in the "evil leftist world-conspiracy" sense.
  - Beltalowda 4y ago
    Having read the "cultural Marxism" thread, I did not get the impression of "Nazi". I'd have to go find it, but I thought it was stupid and wrong, but really not that bad – certainly not as bad as people make it out to be, which just seems to hinge on the usage of a particular phrase. Even "evil leftist world-conspiracy" doesn't really apply IIRC, which is not the same as "Nazi" in any case. Have people forgotten that the genocide of millions of people was at the core of Nazi ideology?
    - l3uwin 4y ago
      [dead]
- bitwize 4y ago
  Kulturbolschewismus (cultural bolshevism) was a Nazi coinage used to refer to a sinister Jewish conspiracy to undermine German culture with Bolshevik elements. The cultural Marxism meme is as explicitly Nazi as is "sieg heil" and "Arbeit macht frei".

detaro 4y ago

Lobsters hats are not the same as e.g. reddit flairs, but rather something to specifically turn on when speaking in its context: "A hat is a formal, verified, way of posting a comment while speaking for a project, organization, or company. Each user may have multiple hats, one of which may be selected to be worn when posting a comment or sending a private message."

Beltalowda 4y ago
Yes, I am aware. But I believe how it works in the UI is that you select it for a post and then it will get automatically applied for all new posts until you turn it off (i.e. it's sticky, either for the thread or globally). Or at least, that's what I've been told as I don't have any "hats". So, it's pretty easy to accidentally apply it. There is no single person who can speak "for" suckless in the same way some rep can speak "for" Microsoft or Y Combinator or whatnot, so that description doesn't really apply in the first place.