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I suspect the title of this article is going to get a lot of commenters who don't read the article. On topic: It seems like the author was directly plagiarized

I suspect the title of this article is going to get a lot of commenters who don't read the article. On topic: It seems like the author was directly plagiarized, and it sounds like the perpetrators are handwaving lawyers at them. If I were them, I'd write to the head of their faculty or their dean; I suspect the university wouldn't want to be associated with potential plagiarism (and I suspect their lawyers would recommend getting the citation approved).

bragr 4y ago
>I'd write to the head of their faculty or their dean The university and the journal. They both have an interest here.
- ggm 4y ago
  Lots of peer review papers refer to non peer review content. It's not wrong to refer to URI of note. Not to do so, this egregiously stinks of passing off others work.
  - melagonster 4y ago
    It is easy to article cited SQLite, even author say they don't need this. people still cited it, because this is basic requirement.
    - Thorrez 4y ago
      SQLite? Can you explain? I don't understand how it fits in here.
      - ggm 4y ago
        Some software, such as gnu "parallels" requests peer review academics to cite use of their code, on an honour system. Sqlite is citable, if you search Google examples how are visible high in search return.
      - melagonster 4y ago
        it just first example I found in my head. try to display citation is must and every researcher do it because they q6re moral.
- nautilius 4y ago
  In my experience, journals are surprisingly (?) uninterested in these sort of things. The university will then just refer to the journal and reply that the claim of plagiarism must be fabricated as the journal would surely have done something.
  - barry-cotter 4y ago
    It would be surprising if you expected universities to live by the ideals they profess but experience teaches that they don’t.
    - flybrand 4y ago
      I sold a line of high end r&d tools to university labs; they became engines to knock off each others work. The least ethical group of buyers I ever worked with!
    - nautilius 4y ago
      “Surprising” refers to journals, not universities. It’s completely unsurprising (albeit unethical) that universities take the easy way.
- BHSPitMonkey 4y ago
  The professor's "work" wasn't published through a university; She published the work as a company she directs. "RECEPTIO is an independent, non-commercial research centre under private law (run by the International Philological Society), whose members do not receive any pecuniary benefit from their research activities."
  - makapuf 4y ago
    You mean this book was not published by academic publishers, so its value is nil?
julianeon 4y ago
Yes. The "Nobody cares about your blog" statement, in this case, is not a dismissive, if accurate, statement about an anonymous blogger, or low viewership blogs in general. It's a self-serving excuse written by a person who cares a lot, obviously, because all their images came from the blogger in question's site.
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barry-cotter 4y ago
She’s been in and around the University of Zürich since 2007[1]. No doubt she has the political capital to weather anything. Kevin Kruse got caught red handed [2] plagiarising and Princeton buried it[3]. Universities are political organisations before academic ones. [1]https://www.rose.uzh.ch/de/seminar/wersindwir/mitarbeitende/rossic.html#%C3%9Cbersicht_zum_Download https://www.rose.uzh.ch/de/seminar/wersindwir/mitarbeitende/... [2] https://philmagness.com/2022/10/kevin-kruses-plagiarism-scandal-evaluating-the-evidence/ https://philmagness.com/2022/10/kevin-kruses-plagiarism-scan... [3] https://www.dailyprincetonian.com/article/2022/10/princeton-cornell-conclude-separate-investigations-kevin-kruse-plagarism-allegations-errors https://www.dailyprincetonian.com/article/2022/10/princeton-...
- mrunkel 4y ago
  Hmm. It looks like it wasn't buried, but investigated by two different bodies and no ill intent was found. The author of the content that was one of the allegations said: >Bayor, who Magness had accused Kruse of plagiarizing, has previously told the ‘Prince’ that the accusations against Kruse were “politically motivated” and that “there is not a story here.” It's from the article.
- UncleMeat 4y ago
  Academic community is in wide discussion about this story (it is juicy) and the response is uniform shock and horror. She’s absolutely not going to have a career in the very very near future. It appears that the entire journal is fraudulent (stock photos for people who apparently work there).

bragr 4y ago

>I'd write to the head of their faculty or their dean The university and the journal. They both have an interest here.

ggm 4y ago
Lots of peer review papers refer to non peer review content. It's not wrong to refer to URI of note. Not to do so, this egregiously stinks of passing off others work.
- melagonster 4y ago
  It is easy to article cited SQLite, even author say they don't need this. people still cited it, because this is basic requirement.
  - Thorrez 4y ago
    SQLite? Can you explain? I don't understand how it fits in here.
    - ggm 4y ago
      Some software, such as gnu "parallels" requests peer review academics to cite use of their code, on an honour system. Sqlite is citable, if you search Google examples how are visible high in search return.
    - melagonster 4y ago
      it just first example I found in my head. try to display citation is must and every researcher do it because they q6re moral.
nautilius 4y ago
In my experience, journals are surprisingly (?) uninterested in these sort of things. The university will then just refer to the journal and reply that the claim of plagiarism must be fabricated as the journal would surely have done something.
- barry-cotter 4y ago
  It would be surprising if you expected universities to live by the ideals they profess but experience teaches that they don’t.
  - flybrand 4y ago
    I sold a line of high end r&d tools to university labs; they became engines to knock off each others work. The least ethical group of buyers I ever worked with!
  - nautilius 4y ago
    “Surprising” refers to journals, not universities. It’s completely unsurprising (albeit unethical) that universities take the easy way.
BHSPitMonkey 4y ago
The professor's "work" wasn't published through a university; She published the work as a company she directs. "RECEPTIO is an independent, non-commercial research centre under private law (run by the International Philological Society), whose members do not receive any pecuniary benefit from their research activities."
- makapuf 4y ago
  You mean this book was not published by academic publishers, so its value is nil?

julianeon 4y ago

Yes. The "Nobody cares about your blog" statement, in this case, is not a dismissive, if accurate, statement about an anonymous blogger, or low viewership blogs in general. It's a self-serving excuse written by a person who cares a lot, obviously, because all their images came from the blogger in question's site.

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barry-cotter 4y ago

She’s been in and around the University of Zürich since 2007[1]. No doubt she has the political capital to weather anything. Kevin Kruse got caught red handed [2] plagiarising and Princeton buried it[3]. Universities are political organisations before academic ones. [1]https://www.rose.uzh.ch/de/seminar/wersindwir/mitarbeitende/rossic.html#%C3%9Cbersicht_zum_Download https://www.rose.uzh.ch/de/seminar/wersindwir/mitarbeitende/... [2] https://philmagness.com/2022/10/kevin-kruses-plagiarism-scandal-evaluating-the-evidence/ https://philmagness.com/2022/10/kevin-kruses-plagiarism-scan... [3] https://www.dailyprincetonian.com/article/2022/10/princeton-cornell-conclude-separate-investigations-kevin-kruse-plagarism-allegations-errors https://www.dailyprincetonian.com/article/2022/10/princeton-...

mrunkel 4y ago
Hmm. It looks like it wasn't buried, but investigated by two different bodies and no ill intent was found. The author of the content that was one of the allegations said: >Bayor, who Magness had accused Kruse of plagiarizing, has previously told the ‘Prince’ that the accusations against Kruse were “politically motivated” and that “there is not a story here.” It's from the article.
UncleMeat 4y ago
Academic community is in wide discussion about this story (it is juicy) and the response is uniform shock and horror. She’s absolutely not going to have a career in the very very near future. It appears that the entire journal is fraudulent (stock photos for people who apparently work there).