The error is in the phrase "grew up with", as it suggests they were kids in the early days of personal computers. The adult amateurs who went from programmable

The error is in the phrase "grew up with", as it suggests they were kids in the early days of personal computers. The adult amateurs who went from programmable calculators to early single-board microcomputers are the generation who are starting to die off. My Dad is of that cohort. In his 40s he went from programmable calculators to building a simple computer with an octal keypad and a row of LEDs for output, to working on an AIM-65, coding in basic and (I think) machine code. He worked in elevator maintenance, being in charge of service in much of Connecticut for one company. At one point he designed and built, with circuit boards he etched himself, some kind of electronic box which I think the company adopted? Maybe? For some kind of elevator-related purpose. I was never clear on what it did, and he probably doesn't remember now. He didn't have an academic background that would have exposed him to computing, having joined the Navy at 15. He later took some radio repair/electronics night school classes. He's 80 now, and has forgotten most of that stuff, and uses a MacBook and an iPad.