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I think I stopped following Bootstrap since they released 4.0. I have a feeling that they just tinker around the edges while creating breaking changes so that

I think I stopped following Bootstrap since they released 4.0. I have a feeling that they just tinker around the edges while creating breaking changes so that you can't upgrade your project without doing massive amount of work. That being said I have a couple of projects running on now you could say ancient version of Bootstrap and they are doing fine. Maybe they could get my interest if they could explain in simple terms why are they doing all those changes? Otherwise it does not make sense. How 5.3.0 is better than 3.0? What does it solve in a better way? I opened some help pages and it seems like an overcomplicated mess. Almost like studying for PhD to create a basic page. Why?

CharlesW 4y ago
> I have a feeling that they just tinker… Totally! First, they took the easy way out with a complete rewrite for Bootstrap 4. "With Bootstrap 4, we once again rewrote the project to account for two key architectural changes: a migration to Sass and the move to CSS’s flexbox. Our intention is to help in a small way to move the web development community forward by pushing for newer CSS properties, fewer dependencies, and new technologies across more modern browsers." For Bootstrap 5, they didn't even do that much — just new and updated components (including checks and radios), new and updated utilities, significantly-enhanced forms support, RTL support, improvements to the grid system, and more. https://blog.getbootstrap.com/2021/05/05/bootstrap-5/ https://blog.getbootstrap.com/2021/05/05/bootstrap-5/
- varispeed 4y ago
  They could have done it without completely changing the "API".
fbdab103 4y ago
I still remember the historical hoopla on major versions. The choice quote below was on their page when the team announced that all v3 development was stopping so they could focus on the alpha v4. Relevant Reddit thread[0]. Supporting When we shipped Bootstrap 3, we immediately discontinued all support for v2.x, causing a lot of pain for all our users out there. That was a mistake we won’t be making again. For the foreseeable future, we’ll be maintaining Bootstrap 3 with critical bug fixes and documentation improvements. v3 docs will also continue to be hosted after v4’s final release. [0] https://old.reddit.com/r/web_design/comments/51cfo4/bootstrap_v3_is_no_longer_maintained/ https://old.reddit.com/r/web_design/comments/51cfo4/bootstra...
nsonha 4y ago
> can't upgrade your project Once you use bootstrap, tailwind whatever you are locked in an intermediate abstraction that you won't be able to get rid off unless rewrite your style entirely, most likely break/have to update your design along the way. This should be clear from day 1
- squeaky-clean 4y ago
  They don't mean switching from bootstrap to something else. They mean an upgrade, like switching from bootstrap 3.4 to 4.0 shouldn't require rewriting 90% of your frontend html, and yet it does. Tailwind v2 to v3 has a few breaking changes but it's nothing compared to bootstrap.

CharlesW 4y ago

> I have a feeling that they just tinker… Totally! First, they took the easy way out with a complete rewrite for Bootstrap 4. "With Bootstrap 4, we once again rewrote the project to account for two key architectural changes: a migration to Sass and the move to CSS’s flexbox. Our intention is to help in a small way to move the web development community forward by pushing for newer CSS properties, fewer dependencies, and new technologies across more modern browsers." For Bootstrap 5, they didn't even do that much — just new and updated components (including checks and radios), new and updated utilities, significantly-enhanced forms support, RTL support, improvements to the grid system, and more. https://blog.getbootstrap.com/2021/05/05/bootstrap-5/ https://blog.getbootstrap.com/2021/05/05/bootstrap-5/

varispeed 4y ago
They could have done it without completely changing the "API".

fbdab103 4y ago

I still remember the historical hoopla on major versions. The choice quote below was on their page when the team announced that all v3 development was stopping so they could focus on the alpha v4. Relevant Reddit thread[0]. Supporting When we shipped Bootstrap 3, we immediately discontinued all support for v2.x, causing a lot of pain for all our users out there. That was a mistake we won’t be making again. For the foreseeable future, we’ll be maintaining Bootstrap 3 with critical bug fixes and documentation improvements. v3 docs will also continue to be hosted after v4’s final release. [0] https://old.reddit.com/r/web_design/comments/51cfo4/bootstrap_v3_is_no_longer_maintained/ https://old.reddit.com/r/web_design/comments/51cfo4/bootstra...

nsonha 4y ago

> can't upgrade your project Once you use bootstrap, tailwind whatever you are locked in an intermediate abstraction that you won't be able to get rid off unless rewrite your style entirely, most likely break/have to update your design along the way. This should be clear from day 1

squeaky-clean 4y ago
They don't mean switching from bootstrap to something else. They mean an upgrade, like switching from bootstrap 3.4 to 4.0 shouldn't require rewriting 90% of your frontend html, and yet it does. Tailwind v2 to v3 has a few breaking changes but it's nothing compared to bootstrap.