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War Is Over

7 points by jtotheh 4y ago

jtotheh 4y ago
I've never submitted here before This is my Christmas thoughts. https://www.codepink.org/christmas_truce_in_ukraine https://www.codepink.org/christmas_truce_in_ukraine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbKsgaXQy2k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbKsgaXQy2k
- ant6n 4y ago
  Russians don’t celebrate Xmas on dec 25, but Jan 7: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_in_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_in_Russia
  - siasia 4y ago
    Well, secular society does celebrate on Dec 25. Some even celebrate both cause both are days off :)
jtotheh 4y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_truce https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_truce
sschueller 4y ago
"This video is age-restricted and only available on YouTube. Learn more" You embed your own video on your website and youtube blocks it...
- cirrus3 4y ago
  You are missing something here... YouTube doesn't block your own videos on your own website.
jfengel 4y ago
War is over if everybody wants it. It is not a tango; it does not take two. I wish I could believe in the power of small pebbles. But it turns out there are also a lot of people who see themselves as pebbles for the opposite of whatever I want. Including, unfortunately, war.
- mistermann 4y ago
  I believe otherwise: I believe that it takes what it takes, and what it takes is unknown, perhaps due to a lack of trying to determine what it is (it's not exactly a money making undertaking).
  - bb88 4y ago
    In 1971, when this was originally released, it was the US that prosecuted the Vietnam war. North Vietnam wasn't interested in bringing the war to US soil. It was literally a democratic decision that could have ended it.
    - mistermann 4y ago
      This presumes that the US government is actually democratic.
    - jfengel 4y ago
      It would have ended US involvement. The war would have continued, but locally and briefly. The North was backed by China, and they won as soon as the US pulled out. The US fear was that it might spread to Laos, Cambodia, and Thailand, which was realistic... And then that it would spread from there to the rest of the world, which was paranoid, stupid, and greedy (being deliberately influenced by major weapons manufacturers).
bb88 4y ago
For context, the original slogan was released and advertised in 1971 during the Vietnam War -- which was a war the US prosecuted until 1975 killing scores of people on both sides. This was a war where the White House and Pentagon lied to the American people to keep support for a war we had no hope for winning. In the end, it didn't matter. The US lost.

7 points by jtotheh 4y ago

I've never submitted here before This is my Christmas thoughts. https://www.codepink.org/christmas_truce_in_ukraine https://www.codepink.org/christmas_truce_in_ukraine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbKsgaXQy2k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbKsgaXQy2k

ant6n 4y ago
Russians don’t celebrate Xmas on dec 25, but Jan 7: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_in_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_in_Russia
- siasia 4y ago
  Well, secular society does celebrate on Dec 25. Some even celebrate both cause both are days off :)

jtotheh 4y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_truce https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_truce

sschueller 4y ago

"This video is age-restricted and only available on YouTube. Learn more" You embed your own video on your website and youtube blocks it...

cirrus3 4y ago
You are missing something here... YouTube doesn't block your own videos on your own website.

jfengel 4y ago

War is over if everybody wants it. It is not a tango; it does not take two. I wish I could believe in the power of small pebbles. But it turns out there are also a lot of people who see themselves as pebbles for the opposite of whatever I want. Including, unfortunately, war.

mistermann 4y ago
I believe otherwise: I believe that it takes what it takes, and what it takes is unknown, perhaps due to a lack of trying to determine what it is (it's not exactly a money making undertaking).
- bb88 4y ago
  In 1971, when this was originally released, it was the US that prosecuted the Vietnam war. North Vietnam wasn't interested in bringing the war to US soil. It was literally a democratic decision that could have ended it.
  - mistermann 4y ago
    This presumes that the US government is actually democratic.
  - jfengel 4y ago
    It would have ended US involvement. The war would have continued, but locally and briefly. The North was backed by China, and they won as soon as the US pulled out. The US fear was that it might spread to Laos, Cambodia, and Thailand, which was realistic... And then that it would spread from there to the rest of the world, which was paranoid, stupid, and greedy (being deliberately influenced by major weapons manufacturers).

bb88 4y ago

For context, the original slogan was released and advertised in 1971 during the Vietnam War -- which was a war the US prosecuted until 1975 killing scores of people on both sides. This was a war where the White House and Pentagon lied to the American people to keep support for a war we had no hope for winning. In the end, it didn't matter. The US lost.