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Sounds like they took acid and also designed it doesn’t sound like they designed anything more interesting because of the acid. In fact (no shade on a good trip

Sounds like they took acid and also designed it doesn’t sound like they designed anything more interesting because of the acid. In fact (no shade on a good trip) maybe they’d have got more designing done if they weren’t taking acid at work.

mistermann 4y ago
One thing that is often revealed when on psychedelics is how unreliable how things seem is, though this realization tends to not be transportable across the barrier between the two states.
- jacob019 4y ago
  Perhaps the passage of time teaches that as well, as we collect examples of being wrong about things we knew to be true.
epolanski 4y ago
Those stories remind me of a Carlos Santana (the guitarist) anecdote: during the late 70s he would often play guitar on acid. He felt great and that his music was among the best he ever played. He then asked to be recorded in one of those sessions/concerts where he gave his very best. Few days later he went to the studio, excited to hear what he produced in that session and..he just couldn't listen to it. It was awful, the worst of his recorded performances ever by far. Missing notes and beats out of time, pointless arpeggios, just terrible. He then decided that he was never ever going to do anything related to his profession on drugs. I too tried to code and do professional stuff on drugs in the past. It just doesn't work. You may enable a part of your brain that gets less used when you're normal, but you entirely lose the relevant one evolution gave you to process information and distinguish between good and bad idea. You also get super lazy. Thus I second your thinking: they probably thought of touch or other devices when high not because of it. Also, I'd like to add that I think those stories are only good when not fact checked. Didn't 2001: Space Odissey feature advanced touch devices that streamed video, had video calls, productivity and much more? That's a 1968 movie and I'm quite confident it was probably not the first thing those devices where imagined.
- filoleg 4y ago
  Imo acid works for me almost the way that the famous saying about writing claims it does - write drunk, edit sober. Except it is more like "think about stuff and write it down on acid, act on it and process it again sober". The main difference compared to alcohol, weed, and a lot of other drugs is that it leaves a fairly long-lasting change. And not in a way that's like "oh, I am still feeling it", but more like how I imagine ketamine is supposed to work (never took it, so cannot validate personally) - while the drug is acting, you process and realize certain things that you had been unknowingly suppressing in your daily life, all while feeling funky. Once the drug wears off, you don't feel funky anymore, but you remember the parts you had been suppressing until that point, and now you can think through and process them normally and fully sober. So it isn't the drug itself still acting, you just ended up realizing certain things, and that realization let you consciously think about them later. Of course, it is also possible to have an acid trip where you don't realize anything and just waste your time on it. But imo that's a fool's errand, because acid doesn't feel that enjoyable just or "fun" on its own. At least it never did to me. But I am immensely glad the few times in my life I gave it a try. I would not call those experiences fun at all, but certain realizations about the direction of my life and my place in lives of others stuck with me (after i processed them sober later). And imo I, and people around me, are better off due to that. P.S. I am one of those people who cannot write any good code or be productive when drinking alcohol at all, not even the smallest amount that will make me feel it. Same with weed. And I am acutely aware of it.
  - jacob019 4y ago
    Used to feel that way, now coding is routine and no longer very thoughtful, and I can code when intoxicated without issue now, a little slower though.
- wpietri 4y ago
  A related passage from Oliver Wendell Holmes: I once inhaled a pretty full dose of ether, with the determination to put on record, at the earliest moment of regaining consciousness, the thought I should find uppermost in my mind. The mighty music of the triumphal march into nothingness reverberated through my brain, and filled me with a sense of infinite possibilities, which made me an archangel for the moment. The veil of eternity was lifted. The one great truth which underlies all human experience, and is the key to all the mysteries that philosophy has sought in vain to solve, flashed upon me in a sudden revelation. Henceforth all was clear: a few words had lifted my intelligence to the level of the knowledge of the cherubim. As my natural condition returned, I remembered my resolution; and, staggering to my desk, I wrote, in ill-shaped, straggling characters, the all-embracing truth still glimmering in my consciousness. The words were these (children may smile; the wise will ponder): “A strong smell of turpentine prevails throughout.” https://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/03/31/turpentine-prevails/ https://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/03/31/turpentine-prevails...

mistermann 4y ago

One thing that is often revealed when on psychedelics is how unreliable how things seem is, though this realization tends to not be transportable across the barrier between the two states.

jacob019 4y ago
Perhaps the passage of time teaches that as well, as we collect examples of being wrong about things we knew to be true.

epolanski 4y ago

Those stories remind me of a Carlos Santana (the guitarist) anecdote: during the late 70s he would often play guitar on acid. He felt great and that his music was among the best he ever played. He then asked to be recorded in one of those sessions/concerts where he gave his very best. Few days later he went to the studio, excited to hear what he produced in that session and..he just couldn't listen to it. It was awful, the worst of his recorded performances ever by far. Missing notes and beats out of time, pointless arpeggios, just terrible. He then decided that he was never ever going to do anything related to his profession on drugs. I too tried to code and do professional stuff on drugs in the past. It just doesn't work. You may enable a part of your brain that gets less used when you're normal, but you entirely lose the relevant one evolution gave you to process information and distinguish between good and bad idea. You also get super lazy. Thus I second your thinking: they probably thought of touch or other devices when high not because of it. Also, I'd like to add that I think those stories are only good when not fact checked. Didn't 2001: Space Odissey feature advanced touch devices that streamed video, had video calls, productivity and much more? That's a 1968 movie and I'm quite confident it was probably not the first thing those devices where imagined.

filoleg 4y ago
Imo acid works for me almost the way that the famous saying about writing claims it does - write drunk, edit sober. Except it is more like "think about stuff and write it down on acid, act on it and process it again sober". The main difference compared to alcohol, weed, and a lot of other drugs is that it leaves a fairly long-lasting change. And not in a way that's like "oh, I am still feeling it", but more like how I imagine ketamine is supposed to work (never took it, so cannot validate personally) - while the drug is acting, you process and realize certain things that you had been unknowingly suppressing in your daily life, all while feeling funky. Once the drug wears off, you don't feel funky anymore, but you remember the parts you had been suppressing until that point, and now you can think through and process them normally and fully sober. So it isn't the drug itself still acting, you just ended up realizing certain things, and that realization let you consciously think about them later. Of course, it is also possible to have an acid trip where you don't realize anything and just waste your time on it. But imo that's a fool's errand, because acid doesn't feel that enjoyable just or "fun" on its own. At least it never did to me. But I am immensely glad the few times in my life I gave it a try. I would not call those experiences fun at all, but certain realizations about the direction of my life and my place in lives of others stuck with me (after i processed them sober later). And imo I, and people around me, are better off due to that. P.S. I am one of those people who cannot write any good code or be productive when drinking alcohol at all, not even the smallest amount that will make me feel it. Same with weed. And I am acutely aware of it.
- jacob019 4y ago
  Used to feel that way, now coding is routine and no longer very thoughtful, and I can code when intoxicated without issue now, a little slower though.
wpietri 4y ago
A related passage from Oliver Wendell Holmes: I once inhaled a pretty full dose of ether, with the determination to put on record, at the earliest moment of regaining consciousness, the thought I should find uppermost in my mind. The mighty music of the triumphal march into nothingness reverberated through my brain, and filled me with a sense of infinite possibilities, which made me an archangel for the moment. The veil of eternity was lifted. The one great truth which underlies all human experience, and is the key to all the mysteries that philosophy has sought in vain to solve, flashed upon me in a sudden revelation. Henceforth all was clear: a few words had lifted my intelligence to the level of the knowledge of the cherubim. As my natural condition returned, I remembered my resolution; and, staggering to my desk, I wrote, in ill-shaped, straggling characters, the all-embracing truth still glimmering in my consciousness. The words were these (children may smile; the wise will ponder): “A strong smell of turpentine prevails throughout.” https://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/03/31/turpentine-prevails/ https://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/03/31/turpentine-prevails...