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Color me shocked that you're completely ignoring the merit of the post. Stay on target, Red 5. This is about Tesla selling dangerously flawed software and misna

Color me shocked that you're completely ignoring the merit of the post. Stay on target, Red 5. This is about Tesla selling dangerously flawed software and misnaming it. This doesn't fall under what lawsuits would refer to as "puffery" (world's greatest coffee!). Tesla is literally misleading customers in a way that can lead to death.

paulmendoza 4y ago
I can’t tell if you are joking or not
- 93po 4y ago
  He isn't. It's Elon derangement syndrome.
  - misiti3780 4y ago
    Haha! I love that term, totally going to use it going forward! It really is a thing.
  - FatActor 4y ago
    The idea of describing an opposing view as derangement is disingenuous because it implies you know the mental state of the person, and it also completely avoids having to discuss the merit of the argument by derailing it. It is also questionable because your post history is full of dozens of pro-Tesla/Elon posts which are mostly trolls or memes. That makes me wonder what you mean by "derangement" because I consider doing that on a discussion forum that seeks knowledge as antithetical to its existence. But since people aware of news coverage for the past decade, this is a term that was popularized in the US during the 2016 election cycle, it has been used to shut down any rational debate. It is effectively name calling. Which is the opposite of the purpose of HN and makes me wonder why you are even here. To troll or to learn or to help people learn. Again from your history, it seems to be the first option. Whether or not someone took donations from an opposing industry, and using that to dismiss their argument is one of the classic fallacies of reasoning. To me, naming a deadly product something it is not seems worthy of regulation, because it is lying. If you prima facie consider me deranged because of that, I do not understand your world view and would like to understand it better. Also, I'm not a he.
93po 4y ago
> This is about Tesla selling dangerously flawed software No, this is about what Tesla calls it. This bill does nothing to stop Tesla's deployment of this feature.

paulmendoza 4y ago

I can’t tell if you are joking or not

93po 4y ago
He isn't. It's Elon derangement syndrome.
- misiti3780 4y ago
  Haha! I love that term, totally going to use it going forward! It really is a thing.
- FatActor 4y ago
  The idea of describing an opposing view as derangement is disingenuous because it implies you know the mental state of the person, and it also completely avoids having to discuss the merit of the argument by derailing it. It is also questionable because your post history is full of dozens of pro-Tesla/Elon posts which are mostly trolls or memes. That makes me wonder what you mean by "derangement" because I consider doing that on a discussion forum that seeks knowledge as antithetical to its existence. But since people aware of news coverage for the past decade, this is a term that was popularized in the US during the 2016 election cycle, it has been used to shut down any rational debate. It is effectively name calling. Which is the opposite of the purpose of HN and makes me wonder why you are even here. To troll or to learn or to help people learn. Again from your history, it seems to be the first option. Whether or not someone took donations from an opposing industry, and using that to dismiss their argument is one of the classic fallacies of reasoning. To me, naming a deadly product something it is not seems worthy of regulation, because it is lying. If you prima facie consider me deranged because of that, I do not understand your world view and would like to understand it better. Also, I'm not a he.

93po 4y ago

> This is about Tesla selling dangerously flawed software No, this is about what Tesla calls it. This bill does nothing to stop Tesla's deployment of this feature.