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Is it really fair to say "tonnes of money" to use Docker Desktop? Docker's pricing page has: > Commercial use of Docker Desktop at a company of more than 250
by nickjj 4y ago
Is it really fair to say "tonnes of money" to use Docker Desktop?
Docker's pricing page has:
> Commercial use of Docker Desktop at a company of more than 250 employees OR more than $10 million in annual revenue requires a paid subscription (Pro, Team, or Business) to use Docker Desktop
A huge amount of solo devs, small teams and decent sized companies will end up paying $0 due to that criteria.
That means all of your startups with 20 employees and 5 developers making $4 million a year are paying $0 for Desktop Desktop. If you become big enough where you surpass $10 in annual revenue then you'll pay Docker $300 a year for your 5 devs to use Docker Desktop.
Or if you're in a bigger company with 400 employees and 60 developers. Those 60 DD licenses will cost you $3,600 a year but your payroll for 60 developers will be like 15 to 25 million dollars.
I don't understand why so many folks want to switch from DD because of pricing alone. Their pricing is extremely fair.
- dijit 4y ago> but your payroll for 60 developers will be like 15 to 25 million dollars. at 15 million dollars thats 250,000$ TC on average which is at least double the cost for the vast majority of the world. €3,600 in isolation isnt much. but if you include the figma license, the intellij/visual studio license, the git(lab|hub) license, the windows license, the sentry license, the office365/gsuite license, the 1password license. well, you get the idea. it becomes a large percentage of a headcount cost at some point. its death by 1000 cuts. especially for europeans or even worse: middle eastern devs
- maximilianroos 4y ago> or even worse: middle eastern devs Wut?
- aeze 4y agoI believe the parent comment is saying they're generally underpaid.
- nickjj 4y ago> at 15 million dollars thats 250,000$ TC on average which is at least double the cost for the vast majority of the world. 250k would be the company's price, not your TC. It depends on where you're working but it's not too far off to expect your company is paying +50-100% on top of your non-options compensation as their all-in cost to employ you.
- dragonwriter 4y ago> Or if you're in a bigger company with 400 employees and 60 developers. Those 60 DD licenses will cost you $3,600 a year but your payroll for 60 developers will be like 15 to 25 million dollars. 1/4-1/2 million payroll expense per developer? That's 2-4× median salary for developers, per BLS. https://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/software-developers.htm https://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/...