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California also has the highest population. I'd be interested the see the "churn %" for each state - the raw numbers are basically meaningless

trickjarrett 4y ago
Agreed. It turns out the data they report from actually has that exact thing in it: https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/popest/tables/2020-2022/state/totals/NST-EST2022-CHG.xlsx https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/popest/tables/2020-... -- I believe this change rate appears calculated against their 2020 census data and not the estimates from 2022. States with most negative change rate: California (-0.9%), Illinois (-0.8%), Louisiana (-0.8%), West Virginia (-0.6%), Hawaii (-0.5%) Five most positive change rate: South Dakota (1.5%), Texas (1.6%), South Carolina (1.7%), Idaho (1.8%), Florida (1.9%) Interestingly three states did not have enough change to register: Kansas, Michigan and Vermont.
- maerF0x0 4y ago
  It would also be interesting to see churn rates. A place could be stable count wise, but actually turning over people fast and running out of suckers (kinda like Amazon warehouse employee base)
Kaibeezy 4y ago
It’s worse than meaningless, it’s misleading. Also, that’s not the title I’m seeing when I click the link, it’s — California’s population shrinks for third straight year as high costs stress households — which is a lot less editorial.
- fundad 4y ago
  It’s almost like price influences demand. How does the home price growth rates compare between CA and the states Californians move to?
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mch82 4y ago
This chart summarizes % change by state. CA population change is in the middle band and doesn’t seem particularly notable. https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/2022/comm/percent-change-state-population.html https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/2022/comm/perc...
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  The second lowest of five bands is not “the middle band”. I would agree that it is not particularly notable; a lot of the headlines are “look at the big numerator and ignore the big denominator, because narrative agenda”.
  - mch82 4y ago
    My comment about CA being in the middle band assumes the states were divided into 5 quantiles, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantile https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantile, and that the upper (>=1.10%) and lower (<=-0.50%) quantiles are the extremes.

trickjarrett 4y ago

Agreed. It turns out the data they report from actually has that exact thing in it: https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/popest/tables/2020-2022/state/totals/NST-EST2022-CHG.xlsx https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/popest/tables/2020-... -- I believe this change rate appears calculated against their 2020 census data and not the estimates from 2022. States with most negative change rate: California (-0.9%), Illinois (-0.8%), Louisiana (-0.8%), West Virginia (-0.6%), Hawaii (-0.5%) Five most positive change rate: South Dakota (1.5%), Texas (1.6%), South Carolina (1.7%), Idaho (1.8%), Florida (1.9%) Interestingly three states did not have enough change to register: Kansas, Michigan and Vermont.

maerF0x0 4y ago
It would also be interesting to see churn rates. A place could be stable count wise, but actually turning over people fast and running out of suckers (kinda like Amazon warehouse employee base)

Kaibeezy 4y ago

It’s worse than meaningless, it’s misleading. Also, that’s not the title I’m seeing when I click the link, it’s — California’s population shrinks for third straight year as high costs stress households — which is a lot less editorial.

fundad 4y ago
It’s almost like price influences demand. How does the home price growth rates compare between CA and the states Californians move to?

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mch82 4y ago

This chart summarizes % change by state. CA population change is in the middle band and doesn’t seem particularly notable. https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/2022/comm/percent-change-state-population.html https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/2022/comm/perc...

dragonwriter 4y ago
The second lowest of five bands is not “the middle band”. I would agree that it is not particularly notable; a lot of the headlines are “look at the big numerator and ignore the big denominator, because narrative agenda”.
- mch82 4y ago
  My comment about CA being in the middle band assumes the states were divided into 5 quantiles, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantile https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantile, and that the upper (>=1.10%) and lower (<=-0.50%) quantiles are the extremes.