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I was excited to be able to eat more commercially-produced foods without wondering if it had sesame or not. Ah well. I guess rather than wondering, I now _know_

I was excited to be able to eat more commercially-produced foods without wondering if it had sesame or not. Ah well. I guess rather than wondering, I now _know_, my food is contaminated, which might be better? Small restaurants have ignored me about my allergy, which TBH worries me more, given the false sense of safety. Now, I just hope for my family's sake if a restaurant kills me, that they're huge and it's their fault.

ffggvv 4y ago
if you have a deadly allergy like that, is eating at small restaurants really worth risking your life?
- LesZedCB 4y ago
  Try saying no to eating out for 6 months every time and see how it feels. Every time your buddy wants a beer, your sisters birthday, after work celebration dinner for a late evening. You don't understand, it's not necessarily as simple as "if I eat out, I die." there are manageable risks with probabilities weighted against being alone again and missing out
  - TiredOfLife 4y ago
    Try not being able to afford eating out.
TreeRingCounter 4y ago
Why don't you just stop eating at restaurants and/or take appropriate steps to protect yourself?
- LesZedCB 4y ago
  I _promise_ you people with allergies know about this "tactic." What all you who suggest it fail to empathize with is that it's the only option most of the time. being completely removed from the social scene of eating out is extremely alienating, and eating out is very common especially for young adults. So you concede, you look up the menu online ahead of time, decide "hey this probably looks safe, I can risk it" Boom, you accidentally eat something you didn't account for, try not to make a scene in front of your friends and the other patrons, go out to your car take Benadryl and pass out. Night over.
  - TreeRingCounter 4y ago
    Very sad stuff, but nonetheless I have zero interest in subsidizing your social preferences (either through regulation or litigation costs). Lots of people live good lives without going to restaurants all the time. Have a barbecue or something.
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    - LesZedCB 4y ago
      the stick you want to take with where you tax money goes is an ADA protected disability? I hope society doesn't feel the same way about your needs when they inevitably arise edit: reduced the tone.
      - Drblessing 4y ago
        Bring back personal responsibility, I'll deal with my needs and problems, I suggest everyone does the same.
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      - TreeRingCounter 4y ago
        If your reaction is personal outrage at me rather than considering the issue at hand, you are probably too emotionally involved to form a useful opinion.
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    - gameman144 4y ago
dataflow 4y ago
(Edit: Never mind, I phrased my question poorly and I'm not sure how to pose it better. I was trying to figure out how one would avoid this scenario where restaurants just say "yes" to every potential allergen to avoid mistakes - like with food labels - if the goal is to have allergic people be able to find places to eat at.)
- Fargren 4y ago
  In Spain (and I think in all of the EU) every item in every menu in every [law-complaint] restaurant has a list of allergens. This is clearly not unrealistic to do, as demonstrable by the fact that many places do it. There's a list of 14 allergens that must be indicated if present. https://www.lexland.es/en/restaurant-menus-should-indicate-the-contents-of-allergens/ https://www.lexland.es/en/restaurant-menus-should-indicate-t...

ffggvv 4y ago

if you have a deadly allergy like that, is eating at small restaurants really worth risking your life?

LesZedCB 4y ago
Try saying no to eating out for 6 months every time and see how it feels. Every time your buddy wants a beer, your sisters birthday, after work celebration dinner for a late evening. You don't understand, it's not necessarily as simple as "if I eat out, I die." there are manageable risks with probabilities weighted against being alone again and missing out
- TiredOfLife 4y ago
  Try not being able to afford eating out.

TreeRingCounter 4y ago

Why don't you just stop eating at restaurants and/or take appropriate steps to protect yourself?

LesZedCB 4y ago
I _promise_ you people with allergies know about this "tactic." What all you who suggest it fail to empathize with is that it's the only option most of the time. being completely removed from the social scene of eating out is extremely alienating, and eating out is very common especially for young adults. So you concede, you look up the menu online ahead of time, decide "hey this probably looks safe, I can risk it" Boom, you accidentally eat something you didn't account for, try not to make a scene in front of your friends and the other patrons, go out to your car take Benadryl and pass out. Night over.
- TreeRingCounter 4y ago
  Very sad stuff, but nonetheless I have zero interest in subsidizing your social preferences (either through regulation or litigation costs). Lots of people live good lives without going to restaurants all the time. Have a barbecue or something.
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  - LesZedCB 4y ago
    the stick you want to take with where you tax money goes is an ADA protected disability? I hope society doesn't feel the same way about your needs when they inevitably arise edit: reduced the tone.
    - Drblessing 4y ago
      Bring back personal responsibility, I'll deal with my needs and problems, I suggest everyone does the same.
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    - TreeRingCounter 4y ago
      If your reaction is personal outrage at me rather than considering the issue at hand, you are probably too emotionally involved to form a useful opinion.
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  - gameman144 4y ago

dataflow 4y ago

(Edit: Never mind, I phrased my question poorly and I'm not sure how to pose it better. I was trying to figure out how one would avoid this scenario where restaurants just say "yes" to every potential allergen to avoid mistakes - like with food labels - if the goal is to have allergic people be able to find places to eat at.)

Fargren 4y ago
In Spain (and I think in all of the EU) every item in every menu in every [law-complaint] restaurant has a list of allergens. This is clearly not unrealistic to do, as demonstrable by the fact that many places do it. There's a list of 14 allergens that must be indicated if present. https://www.lexland.es/en/restaurant-menus-should-indicate-the-contents-of-allergens/ https://www.lexland.es/en/restaurant-menus-should-indicate-t...