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It is when you live in a large city. Where I live the “good old German bakery” is almost extinct and and you have to either travel a lot and queue up for bread,

by 0x008 4y ago

It is when you live in a large city. Where I live the “good old German bakery” is almost extinct and and you have to either travel a lot and queue up for bread, buy cheap bread which consists mostly of some kind of corn Sirup and water or go to a hipster “sourdough” bakery where one loaf costs 8-13€. I really don’t like to complain but it is so crazy to me that when you go to southern Germany or Austria that good bakeries are just that much more common, whereas in large northern cities they have been evicted by large bakery chains or cheap bakeries which all get their bread delivered from the same factory in the morning.

morsch 4y ago
It's true that there are many large chains, it's not true that they only sell "cheap bread which consists mostly of some kind of corn Sirup and water". One of the largest chains has the ingredients for their bread up on the web: https://malzers.de/produkte/brote https://malzers.de/produkte/brote I don't think there's corn syrup in any of them; I checked a few rye breads and they had not added sugar of any kind.
- chihuahua 4y ago
  "mostly corn syrup and water" is nonsense anyways - the main ingredient in any bread is flour made from wheat, rye, spelt, or similar grains. Such a hyperbolic comment discredits itself instantly. Complaining about bread containing water is perhaps the most ludicrous - all bread contains a substantial amount of water, typically 50-85% of the amount of flour, with most bread around 65%. Yes, there may be some poor quality bread out there, but it's not because it's "mostly corn syrup and water." A more reasonable complaint would be "I don't like this bread because it contains some corn syrup."
ahartmetz 4y ago
In Berlin, famous for bad bakeries, the best non-bobo bakeries are... the supermarket internal ones. They have to somehow compete on quality in all of Germany, and they don't go out of their way to reduce quality where standards are lower. They are more expensive than most local "bakeries", too.

by 0x008 4y ago

morsch 4y ago

It's true that there are many large chains, it's not true that they only sell "cheap bread which consists mostly of some kind of corn Sirup and water". One of the largest chains has the ingredients for their bread up on the web: https://malzers.de/produkte/brote https://malzers.de/produkte/brote I don't think there's corn syrup in any of them; I checked a few rye breads and they had not added sugar of any kind.

chihuahua 4y ago
"mostly corn syrup and water" is nonsense anyways - the main ingredient in any bread is flour made from wheat, rye, spelt, or similar grains. Such a hyperbolic comment discredits itself instantly. Complaining about bread containing water is perhaps the most ludicrous - all bread contains a substantial amount of water, typically 50-85% of the amount of flour, with most bread around 65%. Yes, there may be some poor quality bread out there, but it's not because it's "mostly corn syrup and water." A more reasonable complaint would be "I don't like this bread because it contains some corn syrup."

ahartmetz 4y ago

In Berlin, famous for bad bakeries, the best non-bobo bakeries are... the supermarket internal ones. They have to somehow compete on quality in all of Germany, and they don't go out of their way to reduce quality where standards are lower. They are more expensive than most local "bakeries", too.