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This is the grid operating as intended. There are no mandatory or rolling blackouts yet. That is Stage 3; PJM is calling for Stage 2 countermeasures to avoid go
by ljoshua 4y ago
This is the grid operating as intended. There are no mandatory or rolling blackouts yet. That is Stage 3; PJM is calling for Stage 2 countermeasures to avoid going to Stage 3. The operators feel comfortable that this will give them the margin required per the quote on the article, and affects businesses without need for constant power (and this is a known prior agreement for those businesses, with remuneration).
Electricity is a commodity to be managed like all others, and during times of extreme cold this is good management. I think it’s easy to bash grid operators (I know, I live in Texas!) but this seems like proper operating procedure here.
- Animats 4y agoYes. Here's the actual event, from the PJM dashboard. Note the times. The problem lasted less than 4 hours. Once they got past the early evening peak, things were OK. Times are EST. An Emergency Load Mgmt Reduction Action and a NERC level EEA2 have been issued. Load reductions should continue until released by PJM. Reductions are mandatory based on product requirements. CSPs should review DR Hub for specific registration details. Affected: DR (Demand response hub) AEP (American Electric Power) COMED (Commonwealth Edison) DOM (Dominion Energy) DPL (Dayton Power and Light) FE-ATSI (First Energy, American Transmission Systems) FE-PN (First Energy, Pennsylvania) Posting time: 12.23.2022 17:51 Start time: 12.23.2022 18:00 Cancellation time: 12.23.2022 21:30
- avereveard 4y agoShouldn't have called it emergency is just feeding a thirsty news cycle
- jazzyjackson 4y agoit was an emergency which was then alleviated imagine not dialing 911 because you don't want to give the news free content...
- avereveard 4y agoIt is a procedure in place with well defined targets, not an unexpected break in
- xboxnolifes 4y agoYou can plan for, and define responses to, emergencies. That doesn't make them not emergencies.
- P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y agoWhy do I feel like this thread is giving the word emergency an existential crisis :) To be an emergency or not to be an emergency, that is the question!
- boomboomsubban 4y agoAn common use of "emergency" in a similar manner, if I have stomach issues and need to use the toilet now, I will call the situation an emergency even if I haven't yet soiled my pants. If I reach the bathroom in time, the emergency ends with no major incident.
- kryogen1c 4y agoQuite right. If there is a fire in your house, it is still an emergency even if you have an extinguisher and evacuation plan.
- throw827474737 4y agoAbove didn't say that, everything someone planned for is "not unexpected" to some degree, but doesn't make it less an emergency or deviation from normal operation or how you want to call it?
- avereveard 4y agoThey have contracts in place that promise savings in exchange of shutdowns at peaks. You can't get more normal and regulated than that.
- brianwawok 4y agoI got an email 11 hours after the event ended telling me I needed to volunteer to cut power. Opps.