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Why couldn’t it also offer citations then. That sounds ideal actually.

by drewcon 4y ago

pixl97 4y ago
Are we sure the citations were not written by Chatgpt too?
- statheros 4y ago
  >> Explain briefly what the Fourier Transform is. Provide sources with more information about the topic. >> The Fourier transform is a mathematical technique that decomposes a function or signal into its constituent frequencies. It allows us to represent a function in terms of the frequencies that make it up, rather than in terms of its time or spatial behavior. The Fourier transform has many applications in a variety of fields, including signal and image processing, engineering, and physics. It is a fundamental tool in the analysis of periodic phenomena and is widely used in the study of waves and oscillations. For more information about the Fourier transform, you may find the following resources helpful: Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourier_transform https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourier_transform Khan Academy: https://www.khanacademy.org/math/differential-equations/laplace-transform/fourier-series-diff-eq/v/fourier-series https://www.khanacademy.org/math/differential-equations/lapl... Wolfram MathWorld: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/FourierTransform.html http://mathworld.wolfram.com/FourierTransform.html
  - 6510 4y ago
    woah! No need for the "explain briefly" part but when I asked for 50 references it wanted money.
  - oezi 4y ago
    If you ask for an arxiv or pubmed link it also happily makes a link up. But the link just leads to a random paper.
  - Engineering-MD 4y ago
    No https for wolframalpha?
- owlninja 4y ago
  I could be mistaken but I think another ChatGPT discussion on HN had people saying it would sometimes cite sources, and other times just make them up.
numpad0 4y ago
Because neural network frameworks still offer no implements to trace output back to training data, or for that matter, means to compile an AI without brute forcing through parameters, and also because ChatGPT is not interpreting reference materials in text forms but talking from its "memory".
drusepth 4y ago
That sounds like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33910863 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33910863 which was posted here on HN a few weeks ago. It's a ChatGPT-esque model that provides URLs for where it synthesized each individual sentence from, but also feels a lot more summary-heavy rather than strictly new text a la ChatGPT. The results leave quite a bit to be desired, but it's nice to know there are people working on exactly what you're suggesting. :) OpenAI, specifically, has also been working on allowing GPT models to browse the internet and include citations with e.g. https://openai.com/blog/webgpt/ https://openai.com/blog/webgpt/

Why couldn’t it also offer citations then. That sounds ideal actually.

pixl97 4y ago

Are we sure the citations were not written by Chatgpt too?

statheros 4y ago
>> Explain briefly what the Fourier Transform is. Provide sources with more information about the topic. >> The Fourier transform is a mathematical technique that decomposes a function or signal into its constituent frequencies. It allows us to represent a function in terms of the frequencies that make it up, rather than in terms of its time or spatial behavior. The Fourier transform has many applications in a variety of fields, including signal and image processing, engineering, and physics. It is a fundamental tool in the analysis of periodic phenomena and is widely used in the study of waves and oscillations. For more information about the Fourier transform, you may find the following resources helpful: Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourier_transform https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourier_transform Khan Academy: https://www.khanacademy.org/math/differential-equations/laplace-transform/fourier-series-diff-eq/v/fourier-series https://www.khanacademy.org/math/differential-equations/lapl... Wolfram MathWorld: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/FourierTransform.html http://mathworld.wolfram.com/FourierTransform.html
- 6510 4y ago
  woah! No need for the "explain briefly" part but when I asked for 50 references it wanted money.
- oezi 4y ago
  If you ask for an arxiv or pubmed link it also happily makes a link up. But the link just leads to a random paper.
- Engineering-MD 4y ago
  No https for wolframalpha?
owlninja 4y ago
I could be mistaken but I think another ChatGPT discussion on HN had people saying it would sometimes cite sources, and other times just make them up.

numpad0 4y ago

Because neural network frameworks still offer no implements to trace output back to training data, or for that matter, means to compile an AI without brute forcing through parameters, and also because ChatGPT is not interpreting reference materials in text forms but talking from its "memory".

drusepth 4y ago

That sounds like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33910863 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33910863 which was posted here on HN a few weeks ago. It's a ChatGPT-esque model that provides URLs for where it synthesized each individual sentence from, but also feels a lot more summary-heavy rather than strictly new text a la ChatGPT. The results leave quite a bit to be desired, but it's nice to know there are people working on exactly what you're suggesting. :) OpenAI, specifically, has also been working on allowing GPT models to browse the internet and include citations with e.g. https://openai.com/blog/webgpt/ https://openai.com/blog/webgpt/