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It's more that China represents a national security threat and it's OK to special case logic for hostile foreign entities. Notably China isn't the only entity c
by qqtt 4y ago
It's more that China represents a national security threat and it's OK to special case logic for hostile foreign entities. Notably China isn't the only entity called out in this bill, also North Korea, Russia, & Iran.
The privacy conversation IMO is a separate conversation entirely. If consumers want privacy, they have options (like, don't use apps which track you). Banning the collection of data on government employees to be consumed by hostile foreign entities is more about the USA Federal government not being OK with hostile foreign government's abilities to track its employees. And not all foreign governments - only the ones named in the bill.
- rapind 4y agoCouple of linkedin data breaches should definitely put them on the nope list for government devices.
- judge2020 4y agoIt's Microsoft, so never going to happen.
- TaylorAlexander 4y agoPersonally I don't want US companies to have power over me any more than I want Chinese companies to have it. Also China can and will just make shell companies in the USA with apps that track people. Tiktok is a breakout success but it seems plausible that they have the resources to make other popular apps. Going forward they will launch them through US firms to evade bans like this. The only long term solution is to implement real privacy, and face the fact that US companies built their businesses on surveillance and must change.
- babypuncher 4y agoWe've already seen how US companies like Facebook will let any foreign entities with money use this data however they see fit. It makes no sense to single out TikTok or China. Pass stiff data hygiene regulations that make this sort of abuse impossible to begin with, rather than playing whack-a-mole with individual actors.
- eastbound 4y agoLike the GDPR? “Process the data at home, allow backup, non-assisted export, and delete within reasonable time without the user asking”?
- subradios 4y agoYou should care at least a little bit. I know it's not super popular but there's a wild difference between Google, a private company operating under US Law, accountable to the people (and in aggregate, you) by way of democratic rule and a foreign government that has openly attempted to interfere with strategic deterrence of your country, presumably to gain an advantage in a future nuclear exchange with the country you live in. This is not to excuse Google, but suggesting in any way that they are the same as the CCP is a bit of a bruh moment.
- TaylorAlexander 4y agoA couple of things. I am not suggesting they are the same. I am saying that regardless of their differences I do not want either of them to have control over me. > Google, a private company operating under US Law, accountable to the people My understanding of the FISA Court, warrantless wiretapping, and NSA mass surveillance is that the data these companies collect may not all be used in accordance with US law in a way that involves accountability to the people. And that is precisely the reason why I do not want them to be able to collect it. Google does not have to be the same as China for me to want neither of them to surveil me. And it is still the case that these big US companies are very likely doing shady things with our data with no accountability. As someone born and raised in the USA and shocked by the Snowden revelations, I no longer trust that the deep and secretive parts of our government have any sort of the moral compass we are raised to believe they have.
- VincentEvans 4y agoDon’t often hear Snowden mentioned these days. https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/12/18/the-trouble-with-edward-snowden https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/12/18/the-trouble-wi...
- dtech 4y agoHe is fully in the hands of the Russian government because he had to flee to a US-hostile nation. I don't think anyone can blame him for not putting his life at risk a second time.