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I don't think that would bother me with my kids. Is TikTok a necessity for school related activity? When I went to school, I couldn't access the internet. I ha

I don't think that would bother me with my kids. Is TikTok a necessity for school related activity? When I went to school, I couldn't access the internet. I had to wait until I got home.

CircleSpokes 4y ago
University isn't the same as grade school. It is absurd a public University would do any sort of filtering or censorship on their networks.
- coderintherye 4y ago
  >any sort of filtering This is a rather absurd position if you consider it. To take the absolute simplest example, you really think a school should not be allowed to filter traffic from students specifically launching purposeful attacks on school network infrastructure?
  - np- 4y ago
    Attacks are a bit different than someone trying to access information, though. Much like it is illegal to punch someone in the face, unless they try to punch you first.
  - CircleSpokes 4y ago
    Maybe I should have been more specific. In my mind there is a difference between stopping outgoing ddos attack and blocking/censoring websites.
    - coderintherye 4y ago
      Now define "outgoing attack". You're trying to keep it defined to "ddos" only but surely you would agree that the school filtering a student actively attempting to hijack school infrastructure to send active shooter threats to the student population should also be filtered yes? Keep going a few steps and you'll realize that's exactly the problem, there's no level of specificity you can define here that works without some level of subjectivity. Try and see. Good luck. Suggested reading: https://twitter.com/yishan/status/1586955288061452289 https://twitter.com/yishan/status/1586955288061452289
- thevagrant 4y ago
  Universities also employ academics (some of whom are outspoken toward CCP). Possibly Universities are doing this for more than one reason? For example to protect their staff given the recent articles about tiktok tracking of journalists
- feet 4y ago
  Really? Many universities do DNS filtering so I'm not sure where that idea comes from
ffssffss 4y ago
I guess what concerns me is that in some schools, students are required to live in dorms. So to me, it feels like an encroachment on what I would consider the students' personal, private home, where I suppose they should be allowed to access whatever content they like (minus, of course, the content I deem objectionable, like child exploitation, but thats much easier for us all to agree on I think).
- washadjeffmad 4y ago
  Only the apps for TikTok, WeChat, and Telegram are being blocked and removed, not the websites, and only from state property. There's a privacy and security (read: espionage) concern with the apps right now.
  - endianswap 4y ago
    According to TFA they're blocked from being accessed from school wi-fi, not only from state property.
    - washadjeffmad 4y ago
      Not accurate in Georgia. I can VPN into two institutions and access those domains, and so far one of the Networking teams says they've been given no order to block by DNS or IP. They also have no separate VLAN for student wifi.
      - ffssffss 4y ago
        The two schools are University of Oklahoma and Auburn University.
        washadjeffmad 4y ago
        The article explicitly mentions the University System of Georgia.
  - someNameIG 4y ago
sundvor 4y ago
As a somewhat responsible parent I see TikTok as intellectual poison, or attention pornography at best. It is banned in my house. (I grew up on the Vic20/C64/Amiga etc; am not a Luddite).
- throwawaylinux 4y ago
  > As a somewhat responsible parent I see TikTok as intellectual poison, or attention pornography at best. It is. > It is banned in my house. Good. Don't let weird internet techbros namecalling or "expert advice" influence how you raise your children, or apologize for it. I imagine the most difficult problem with banning anything would be to make sure they don't feel or become isolated from their peers because of it. Must be tough.
cute_boi 4y ago
It is not up to you or me to decide what is necessary or not for school related activity. Who even decides what is necessary or unnecessary. University shouldn't censor Tiktok and allow facebook, insta . We don't live in China where government passes draconian measures.
paganel 4y ago
It will most probably teach them very fast how to install a VPN on their phones.
dinkumthinkum 4y ago
Sounds great to me. TikTok is pretty, I don’t see a benefit for kids to use it. The type of content it has is hyper optimized for stunting development, in my opinion, I’m a way not found in most other social media. Also, it is rife with pretty illegal content. I would just say it doesn’t seem like a big loss.

I don't think that would bother me with my kids. Is TikTok a necessity for school related activity? When I went to school, I couldn't access the internet. I had to wait until I got home.

CircleSpokes 4y ago

University isn't the same as grade school. It is absurd a public University would do any sort of filtering or censorship on their networks.

coderintherye 4y ago
>any sort of filtering This is a rather absurd position if you consider it. To take the absolute simplest example, you really think a school should not be allowed to filter traffic from students specifically launching purposeful attacks on school network infrastructure?
- np- 4y ago
  Attacks are a bit different than someone trying to access information, though. Much like it is illegal to punch someone in the face, unless they try to punch you first.
- CircleSpokes 4y ago
  Maybe I should have been more specific. In my mind there is a difference between stopping outgoing ddos attack and blocking/censoring websites.
  - coderintherye 4y ago
    Now define "outgoing attack". You're trying to keep it defined to "ddos" only but surely you would agree that the school filtering a student actively attempting to hijack school infrastructure to send active shooter threats to the student population should also be filtered yes? Keep going a few steps and you'll realize that's exactly the problem, there's no level of specificity you can define here that works without some level of subjectivity. Try and see. Good luck. Suggested reading: https://twitter.com/yishan/status/1586955288061452289 https://twitter.com/yishan/status/1586955288061452289
thevagrant 4y ago
Universities also employ academics (some of whom are outspoken toward CCP). Possibly Universities are doing this for more than one reason? For example to protect their staff given the recent articles about tiktok tracking of journalists
feet 4y ago
Really? Many universities do DNS filtering so I'm not sure where that idea comes from

ffssffss 4y ago

I guess what concerns me is that in some schools, students are required to live in dorms. So to me, it feels like an encroachment on what I would consider the students' personal, private home, where I suppose they should be allowed to access whatever content they like (minus, of course, the content I deem objectionable, like child exploitation, but thats much easier for us all to agree on I think).

washadjeffmad 4y ago
Only the apps for TikTok, WeChat, and Telegram are being blocked and removed, not the websites, and only from state property. There's a privacy and security (read: espionage) concern with the apps right now.
- endianswap 4y ago
  According to TFA they're blocked from being accessed from school wi-fi, not only from state property.
  - washadjeffmad 4y ago
    Not accurate in Georgia. I can VPN into two institutions and access those domains, and so far one of the Networking teams says they've been given no order to block by DNS or IP. They also have no separate VLAN for student wifi.
    - ffssffss 4y ago
      The two schools are University of Oklahoma and Auburn University.
      - washadjeffmad 4y ago
        The article explicitly mentions the University System of Georgia.
- someNameIG 4y ago

sundvor 4y ago

As a somewhat responsible parent I see TikTok as intellectual poison, or attention pornography at best. It is banned in my house. (I grew up on the Vic20/C64/Amiga etc; am not a Luddite).

throwawaylinux 4y ago
> As a somewhat responsible parent I see TikTok as intellectual poison, or attention pornography at best. It is. > It is banned in my house. Good. Don't let weird internet techbros namecalling or "expert advice" influence how you raise your children, or apologize for it. I imagine the most difficult problem with banning anything would be to make sure they don't feel or become isolated from their peers because of it. Must be tough.

cute_boi 4y ago

It is not up to you or me to decide what is necessary or not for school related activity. Who even decides what is necessary or unnecessary. University shouldn't censor Tiktok and allow facebook, insta . We don't live in China where government passes draconian measures.

paganel 4y ago

It will most probably teach them very fast how to install a VPN on their phones.

dinkumthinkum 4y ago

Sounds great to me. TikTok is pretty, I don’t see a benefit for kids to use it. The type of content it has is hyper optimized for stunting development, in my opinion, I’m a way not found in most other social media. Also, it is rife with pretty illegal content. I would just say it doesn’t seem like a big loss.