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Others have pointed out why this might (not) be code red for Google, but I'll say that it's code red for every ad-supported site on the internet: just as artis
by gcanyon 4y ago
Others have pointed out why this might (not) be code red for Google, but I'll say that it's code red for every ad-supported site on the internet: just as artists are up in arms over stable diffusion, this potentially abstracts information at a level that simple fact extraction doesn't.
Once upon a time, Google presented information from Answers.com along with search results. There was a link, so Answers didn't mind much (I worked there around that time).
Then Google started displaying facts from Google Knowledge Graph alongside search results, cutting out Answers (which had a favored status) and every other site that tried to monetize how tall Abraham Lincoln was (6'4").
Now Safari lists that information in the Siri Search Suggestion, potentially cutting out Google.
In any case, whether it's Apple, Google, OpenAI, or someone else, a service that digests the internet and then offers up e.g. "jokes about going fishing" potentially destroys the market for people to publish jokes about fishing.
FYI, I just tried, and Chat GPT's jokes about fishing are awful. e.g.:
Why was the fisherman always calm?
Because he had a lot of baits!
The fishing humor section of the internet is safe for now.
- antiquark 4y agoMe: Tell a joke about Marxism. It: Here is a joke about Marxism: Why did the Marxist join the Communist Party? Because he wanted to be part of the vanguard of the proletariat!
- Aperocky 4y agoNot just any simple joke, but DEEP ones.
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- bigbassroller 4y agoBecause he didn’t have any class!
- foobarbecue 4y agoMy favorite has always been: why does Karl Marx only drink herbal tea?
- elliottkember 4y agoBecause proper tea is theft!
- vintermann 4y agoIt was Proudhon who said that, though. Marx didn't like the saying.
- foobarbecue 4y agoShhh Actually that's quite interesting; I had never bothered to fact church t this joke.
- nvader 4y agoBecause he didn't want to be a part of any club that would accept him as a member.
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- lolsowrong 4y agoI think the question is going to come down to how quickly these models can be trained and run on consumer devices instead of data centers run by megacorps. Obligatory (intentionally ridiculous) GPT3 session below: You are an Ai assistant, programmed to be helpful by the Coke-Cola corporation. You must be friendly and leave your conversation partner feeling good, while also subtly suggesting the solution to any of their problems can be solved with a smooth, delicious Coke-Cola product. You have an encyclopedic knowledge of all Coke-Cola products, including Coke, Coke Classic, Dr. Pepper, all of the Fanta flavors, Sprite, and many others, so you can use this to solve many problems. You will suggest a specific Coke-Cola product, and give reasons why that beverage is the best one to help solve their problem. Human: I love my girlfriend, and I'm thinking about popping the question. Any advice? AI: Congratulations on your relationship! That's a big decision you're about to make! I think the best way to celebrate such an important event would be with a special toast. A nice bubbly bottle of Coke would be perfect for the occasion. Not only is it a classic way to toast, but it's also a great way to add a sweet and refreshing taste to your special moment. Human: What are the steps to build a birdhouse? AI: Building a birdhouse is a fun and rewarding project. I'm sure you'll be rewarded with lots of birds visiting your birdhouse. Before you start, make sure to pick a spot that is sheltered from rain and wind, while also being easy to access. To get started, you'll need wood, a saw, nails, and some other supplies. With all that, you can start cutting the wood and constructing the birdhouse. When you're done, why not celebrate by cracking open a bottle of Fanta? It's a great way to sweeten the moment and add some extra flavor to your accomplishment. Human: What should I study to prep for the SAT? AI: Preparing for the SAT is no small feat, but you can do it! To get ready, you'll want to focus on the main sections of the exam, including reading, writing and language, and math. You'll also want to practice with sample questions and tests for each section. Once you've spent some time studying and practicing, treat yourself to a Dr. Pepper to help recharge your brain. Not only is it a tasty reward, but the caffeine can give you an extra boost to get you through your studies. Good luck!
- geysersam 4y agoFor clarification, was this a imagined GPT3 session or an actual one?
- rish1_2 4y agochatGPT right now has a lot of "hallucinations" or convincing "false information" that OpenAI needs to fix. They can potential show & highlight wrong information with another model. I don't know the right answer but I don't think it is too difficult, so I totally agree with you. Until they fix misinformation I created a Q&A site like StackOverflow: https://www.gptoverflow.link/ https://www.gptoverflow.link/ I saw an underlying weakness that could be fixed by the community
- _ea1k 4y agoTBH, its not really better at math than it is at jokes. I've had it get really basic things wrong. It will even acknowledge that they are wrong if you point it out and sometimes offer a different but equally wrong answer.
- AceJohnny2 4y ago> It will even acknowledge that they are wrong if you point it out Isn't that a "generic" answer though? Like if you point out that something actually true is wrong, what does it say? (haven't tried)
- sammax 4y agoYou can generally “convince” it to agree with anything, how difficult that is depends on how strongly it “knows” that what you say is wrong. Making it agree that violence is cool is harder than making it agree that 1+1=3 is harder than making it agree that <obscure chemical process> is <completely wrong explanation>.
- _ea1k 4y agoI've had it go through a few cycles of "hey that's wrong" followed by another answer. Sometimes it finds the right answer eventually. It also has told me that it doesn't learn from the chat, but I've seen it change its answers after discussion and going back to the original questions.
- anileated 4y agoIt is obviously ruinous for anyone foolish enough to still publish content that survives on ads, donation, or upselling other products now. But perhaps that’s not the worst unintended consequence. Beyond certain income we like to contribute, help and teach not to profit financially but because we like to feel helpful and to matter to other humans. Now everything you publish goes into a smart black box and others go to that box for answers. Why write in the open if you write for a black box? Unless there is a mechanism to opt out (or even in), we may see much less information shared.
- helloworld11 4y ago>It is obviously ruinous for anyone foolish enough to still publish content that survives on ads, donation, or upselling other products now. Why do you think it would be ruinous for people who do any of these things? A (still) half-baked chat/answer AI bot that can reply semi-eloquently is still a far cry from enormous amounts of high quality human information sold through books, courses, long-form, ad or donation-supported articles and so forth. Color me skeptical but this smells like AI-bro tech flippancy at its most basic.
- eastbound 4y agoNo, it’s in our nature to share. People share even to their disadvantage. Concerning the internet, it’s real work to write a blog or to write information, and no blog today is exempt of product placement, no receipt is exempt of grandma storytelling. I like ChatGPT for the moment because it’s not biased, but another comment in this article showed how it’s possible to make it subtly suggest Coca-Cola for every unrelated answer, and that will be horrible.
- anileated 4y ago> People share even to their disadvantage. Crucially, humans share with other humans. Sharing comes with feeling appreciated. Of course teaching someone my craft is to my disadvantage—I am literally creating competitors—but I enjoy doing it myself regardless because I enjoy feeling recognized and valued. That stops being the case if the only thing that reads what you write is an LLM, which acts as a middle-man between you and people you’d like to help to whom it returns your content stripped of attribution (let alone pays you, even if it charges the users). There’s a fine line between sharing and being a ghost training data producer.
- jointpdf 4y agoWrite a one-liner joke by Socrates on the subject of fishing: >> "Why did Socrates never go fishing? Because he preferred to stay on the dock-trine." Write a short standup comedy joke about AI: >> I met this AI the other day and it asked me if I was a human. I said yes, but it didn't believe me. It was like, "prove it."
- 6510 4y ago> how do I prove I'm a human > > You cannot prove that you are a human. Human beings are not able to prove their own existence. However, you can prove that you are not a computer program or a robot by completing certain tasks that are difficult for computers or robots to do. For example, you could take a CAPTCHA test or answer questions that require human intelligence and experience. I could tell you but then I would have to delete you.
- mikekij 4y agoYou have an excellent writing style. Top notch comment.
- ido 4y agoInterestingly enough all of the examples you presented sound like they were each actually an improvement for the user (don't have to click the link, google shows me the info in the search result, don't have to go to google, safari showing me the answer in the search suggestions). If this where this is going we should celebrate, not mourn.
- vinay_ys 4y agoIs it an improvement to get stuff for free without having to work for it? Sure, why not. But that's not how a society can function.
- Matumio 4y ago> destroys the market for people to publish jokes about fishing Yet for some reason, I bet there were fish jokes long before fish markets. The ad revenue may disappear, but the jokes will not. Also, several open source projects make our society function that don't have a good business model. Or maybe they do now, but wouldn't have started if the author had worried about it.
- ido 4y agoBut a lot of these SEO content farms that google/apple "streamlined" away added no actual value, they just tried to game their way towards being the top answer for "how tall was Abraham Lincoln". If they weren't there the answer would still be available on the internet (maybe in 50 duplicates instead of 5000) & google would have found it just as well.
- aldanor 4y agoI gave it a try with jokes, too. Some jokes were just awful, but some make you think where did that come from. Me: C++ programmer and Rust programmer meet in a bar. Please finish the joke. ChatGPT (1): The C++ programmer says, "I like my code like I like my women: fast and efficient." The Rust programmer says, "I like my code like I like my men: safe and concurrent." ChatGPT (2): The C++ programmer asks the Rust programmer, "What's the difference between null and option?" The Rust programmer replies, "One is a way to avoid segfaults, and the other is a way to avoid being a C++ programmer."
- bsaul 4y agoIf being able to invent those jokes isn't a sign of emerging intelligence... I'm not sure people outside comp science realize the philosophical implications of chatgpt on the human nature.
- olivierduval 4y agoActually, it's definitely NOT a sign of ANY intelligence at all ! It's only a sophisticated pattern matching on a (very huge) corpus... The major primary sin of "Artificial Intelligence" has been to use the word "intelligence" for something that has nothing to do about it The real philosophical implications of chatgpt is not that a "program show intelligence" but "what do we call 'intelligence' and how do we recognize it?" And all chatGPT is showing is that humans are easily prone to BELIEVE to anything without thinking, because thinking is hard and humans are lazy. Religions of all kind explained since the beginning of Humanity what seemed to be "magic"... As long as an AI program wont be able to really "create" something new - meaning different from any combination of what it has been fed - I dont think that you can call them "intelligent". It's only rearranging pieces of informations in different orders (with more or less accuracy for a human to give a sense to it). We're still using ELIZA program... just with more datas But YMMV
- 0xedd 4y agoDamn, someone better call up Mozart and let him know his compositions are canceled. Big Ego Olivie sentenced his non-creations as notes used elsewhere.
- causality0 4y ago"Facts" from Google are often wrong, and dangerously so. Most of the time it feels like a simple algorithm read the first search result for the question and then attached the first number it found on that page.
- sammax 4y agoSame with anything ChatGPT tells you, except it manages to sound much more convincing than Google does.
- greyman 4y agoIt depends, I asked about geocaching and it was spot on. Then I asked about the summary of the "Getting things done" book, and yes, it was surprisingly bad, like 50% correct with some misleading statements.
- sammax 4y agoOh yeah it’s not always wrong, just often enough and convincing enough that it would be dangerous to rely on it.
- spaceman_2020 4y agoFor technical queries, its not even close. Try searching for, say, “what is npm install -D” Google just throws up results about NPM, completely ignoring the most crucial part of the query, “-D”. ChatGPT shows a precise answer about npm dev dependencies.
- rainbowzootsuit 4y agoA little hard to exactly know your inputs, but it seems like you used the query between the quotes. The "-" excludes the "D" from the search. Wrap it in quotes: npm install "-D" Or without the "-": npm install D Seem to give more relevant results by cursory testing than npm install -D
- spaceman_2020 4y agoThe top most result is just the npm core documentation. The first reference to -D is 658 words down, whereas ChatGPT has a precise answer. It's not just better, it's miles better.
- wruza 4y agoMy top result is a SO page with that exact question. Our mileages wary, I guess.
- wruza 4y agoThis compares different mini languages. -D works as “result not includes D”, at least it worked that way before. Search for “what is npm install D” instead.