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Seems quite reasonable to me, we've got a world-leading chip team who have been doing great work responsible for a pretty major cock-up. Sounds like they're not

Seems quite reasonable to me, we've got a world-leading chip team who have been doing great work responsible for a pretty major cock-up. Sounds like they're not used to these kinds of failures in apple silicon development. > And it's not exactly a setback either. So they had to have a slightly less powerful phone. Whatever. Having a roadmap with a more powerful GPU with senior management being told its deliverable right up until very close to the end is a pretty major set-back. Yes Apple is so dominant and well respected in their market it's unlikely to have significant impact, but may produce fewer iPhone 14 Pro sales. Also Apple have got to that position specifically because they've been doing a great job executing to ambitious road-maps without things like this. So short-term, looking at this product, yes, maybe not that big a deal, long-term they need to ask themselves how they're ensuring this doesn't happen again. Given they're restructuring the team and getting rid of managers sounds like Apple leadership take this pretty seriously.

hinkley 4y ago
Perhaps not with this phone but with other devices, it's not uncommon for a manufacturer to work with other companies to make sure there's something to show off on this device. For a GPU on an oversized phone, you could have been looking at additional video or picture editing operations that did not get released.
tedunangst 4y ago
I wish more companies would "cock-up" by shipping functional products.
- mr_toad 4y ago
  And prioritise battery life over faster processors.
  - tnel77 4y ago
    “Our product can last all day!” Doing what? Sitting on the counter? I want a phone that can stream data all day (music and maps) while occasionally taking photos and sending messages.
    - sillysaurusx 4y ago
      Get an iPad. I made the mistake of buying one a year or so ago and it completely replaced my personal laptop. It’s basically a massive battery, so it lasts all day and then some. Also pick up an Apple Pencil and download procreate, if only for the “well that’s pretty cool” experience.
      - chemmail 4y ago
        Even iPads are shit now. I have two iPad 11 Pros and they can not last a week just sitting there. My Ipad 2 and 4s? I charge them once every 3-4 months on super light duty. Apple is slowly and surely going down the gutter. The iPhone 14 pro is a pretty sad upgrade too with regression in battery life from the 13. I've owned almost every iphone since 4 and the 14 is the one i skipped because it doesn't even have a SIM slot! Lets see if they can bring it around in 15.
        behringer 4y ago
        > I have two iPad 11 Pros and they can not last a week just sitting there. To be fair to Apple I don't think any company is too concerned with features aimed at people who don't use the product.
        ako 4y ago
        He’s stating an iPad has replaced his laptop, and you complain about battery going empty if not used for a week?
        astrange 4y ago
        They will never have a SIM slot again unless you get the China model, and you don’t need one. eSIM is better.
        saagarjha 4y ago
        Physical SIM cards don't make me contact my carrier when I get a new device. What does eSIM offer that beats that?
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grumpyprole 4y ago
> Seems quite reasonable to me, we've got a world-leading chip team who have been doing great work responsible for a pretty major cock-up. You mean had a word beating chip team. I heard that the M1 team pretty much all left.

hinkley 4y ago

Perhaps not with this phone but with other devices, it's not uncommon for a manufacturer to work with other companies to make sure there's something to show off on this device. For a GPU on an oversized phone, you could have been looking at additional video or picture editing operations that did not get released.

tedunangst 4y ago

I wish more companies would "cock-up" by shipping functional products.

mr_toad 4y ago
And prioritise battery life over faster processors.
- tnel77 4y ago
  “Our product can last all day!” Doing what? Sitting on the counter? I want a phone that can stream data all day (music and maps) while occasionally taking photos and sending messages.
  - sillysaurusx 4y ago
    Get an iPad. I made the mistake of buying one a year or so ago and it completely replaced my personal laptop. It’s basically a massive battery, so it lasts all day and then some. Also pick up an Apple Pencil and download procreate, if only for the “well that’s pretty cool” experience.
    - chemmail 4y ago
      Even iPads are shit now. I have two iPad 11 Pros and they can not last a week just sitting there. My Ipad 2 and 4s? I charge them once every 3-4 months on super light duty. Apple is slowly and surely going down the gutter. The iPhone 14 pro is a pretty sad upgrade too with regression in battery life from the 13. I've owned almost every iphone since 4 and the 14 is the one i skipped because it doesn't even have a SIM slot! Lets see if they can bring it around in 15.
      - behringer 4y ago
        > I have two iPad 11 Pros and they can not last a week just sitting there. To be fair to Apple I don't think any company is too concerned with features aimed at people who don't use the product.
      - ako 4y ago
        He’s stating an iPad has replaced his laptop, and you complain about battery going empty if not used for a week?
      - astrange 4y ago
        They will never have a SIM slot again unless you get the China model, and you don’t need one. eSIM is better.
        saagarjha 4y ago
        Physical SIM cards don't make me contact my carrier when I get a new device. What does eSIM offer that beats that?

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grumpyprole 4y ago

> Seems quite reasonable to me, we've got a world-leading chip team who have been doing great work responsible for a pretty major cock-up. You mean had a word beating chip team. I heard that the M1 team pretty much all left.