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> It's immoral to force someone to do something they don't want to do. I'll remember this the next time I need to pay taxes, am drafted to serve in the militar
by rsj_hn 4y ago
> It's immoral to force someone to do something they don't want to do.
I'll remember this the next time I need to pay taxes, am drafted to serve in the military, or have to abide by a court judgment I don't agree with.
- jacquesm 4y agoThe context was clearly bodily autonomy, and France doesn't have a draft.
- smeej 4y agoNot much violates bodily autonomy as badly as military conscription. The tough thing about principle arguments is that they're like trains, not taxis. You're stuck with them until their conclusions. You don't just get to choose where you want them to go.
- rsj_hn 4y agoWhether the government of France has the right to draft you is completely up to the government of France to decide, and they can change their mind at any time. At best you can be comforted in knowing that your bodily autonomy is being voted on in a general election so that a law is passed. That's all it takes.
- jacquesm 4y agoI'm well aware of that, but right now France doesn't have that, and there is absolutely no indication that they will re-instate a draft. You might as well argue that democracy is against bodily autonomy. The subject is assisted dying, not army conscription.
- rsj_hn 4y agoNo, the argument is about what is moral or immoral. Saying "I'm not going to have an assisted suicide right now" or saying "I will allow you to have an assisted suicide right now" is completely irrelevant to the discussion of the morality of the same. Your argument certainly doesn't depend on timing, does it? France has had conscriptions whenever it needed them. If it needs them in the future, you can be sure it will have them.