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Why "secret"? It might also be legitimate surveillance orders, issued by a judge (hence DoJ), that allows for lawful communications interception, external surv
by deepsun 4y ago
Why "secret"?
It might also be legitimate surveillance orders, issued by a judge (hence DoJ), that allows for lawful communications interception, external surveillance, etc on a particular subject. The planes tracks look like they mostly circle some single spot or a driving car, or search for something.
I don't argue it's legitimate. I argue there's no evidence the other way.
- pessimizer 4y agoNo, you fail to argue that "legitimate" and "secret" are opposites.
- deepsun 4y agoI mean the "secret government program" might not be "secret", but a part of public legal system "program".
- tmpburning 4y ago[dead]
- wolverine876 4y agoIf we wait for smoking guns, we greatly empower people who decieve us.
- deepsun 4y agoYep, but what do you propose in the case they're legitimate? To post publicly what investigation orders agents received? That defeats the whole purpose.
- wolverine876 4y agoWe could post publicly the orders in general terms, in ways that will not identify the targets. And as soon as possible, post the remainder of the order. Transparency is essential to rule of, by, and for the people.
- Lendal 4y agoOkay, but are you referring to the criminals, or law enforcement? Both are involved in deception.