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> But human rights advocates say the country’s regulations lack necessary safeguards, devalue the lives of disabled people and are prompting doctors and health

> But human rights advocates say the country’s regulations lack necessary safeguards, devalue the lives of disabled people and are prompting doctors and health workers to suggest the procedure to those who might not otherwise consider it.[0] My problem with euthanasia is how do you know if the patient actually wanted it, or if they were pressured into it by medical personnel in order to cut costs? In Canada, the health care system is publicly funded. There's an incentive for euthanasia because it cuts costs In the USA, we don't have a public health care system, so there's an incentive to drag people along, run up the bill, and not euthanize them What I find most interesting about this euthanasia thing is I only see it really getting taken seriously in jurisdictions where the health care system is public. If a public healthcare system introduces this nasty dynamic of disabled, debilitated people getting put down "for the public good", I don't want a public health care system [0] https://apnews.com/article/covid-science-health-toronto-7c631558a457188d2bd2b5cfd360a867 https://apnews.com/article/covid-science-health-toronto-7c63...

lotsofpulp 4y ago
There are a few US states with medically assisted suicide options. >My problem with euthanasia is how do you know if the patient actually wanted it, or if they were pressured into it by medical personnel in order to cut costs? It does not take a genius to figure out that expensive end of life care paid with taxpayer funds and the country’s labor resources could instead be going towards things like education or infrastructure. >In the USA, we don't have a public health care system, What is Medicare? Medicaid? Who pays the hospital when someone with no means to pay walks in and EMTALA requires them to receive healthcare?
- seti0Cha 4y ago
  > It does not take a genius to figure out that expensive end of life care paid with taxpayer funds and the country’s labor resources could instead be going towards things like education or infrastructure. And there are a great many people that cost society more than they're worth, so the potential savings are enormous! I bet we can save even more if we practice selective sterilization.
- hellfish 4y ago
  > It does not take a genius to figure out that expensive end of life care paid with taxpayer funds and the country’s labor resources could instead be going towards things like education or infrastructure There's enough surplus in any western society that this sort of zero sum thinking is completely out of place. Anyone who would consciously sacrifice another human being for something inanimate like "infrastructure" is sick in the head
  - chrisbaker98 4y ago
    > Anyone who would consciously sacrifice another human being for something inanimate like "infrastructure" is sick in the head You need to read more history.

lotsofpulp 4y ago

There are a few US states with medically assisted suicide options. >My problem with euthanasia is how do you know if the patient actually wanted it, or if they were pressured into it by medical personnel in order to cut costs? It does not take a genius to figure out that expensive end of life care paid with taxpayer funds and the country’s labor resources could instead be going towards things like education or infrastructure. >In the USA, we don't have a public health care system, What is Medicare? Medicaid? Who pays the hospital when someone with no means to pay walks in and EMTALA requires them to receive healthcare?

seti0Cha 4y ago
> It does not take a genius to figure out that expensive end of life care paid with taxpayer funds and the country’s labor resources could instead be going towards things like education or infrastructure. And there are a great many people that cost society more than they're worth, so the potential savings are enormous! I bet we can save even more if we practice selective sterilization.
hellfish 4y ago
> It does not take a genius to figure out that expensive end of life care paid with taxpayer funds and the country’s labor resources could instead be going towards things like education or infrastructure There's enough surplus in any western society that this sort of zero sum thinking is completely out of place. Anyone who would consciously sacrifice another human being for something inanimate like "infrastructure" is sick in the head
- chrisbaker98 4y ago
  > Anyone who would consciously sacrifice another human being for something inanimate like "infrastructure" is sick in the head You need to read more history.