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Let's update the HN circle on Google Plus (the proper way)
- danso 15y agoWow. I don't want to start another debate on this, but am I the only one to be surprised at the near-complete lack of women on this contacts list? I'll admit that I don't subconciously think that every username on here has an even chance of being male or female...but I did assume that HN at least matched the male/female ratio at my computer engineering program (90/10). I guess the G+ list might contain only the subset of women who feel comfortable with making their online identity public...but that's actually worse of an implication.
- bitcrunch 15y agoI'm only one, but as a woman - a woman in tech - I do not put my identity out in public. If I can't use a pseudonym I don't use a service or even RSVP to an event. Many tech events now require a Facebook RSVP; I just delete those invitations and don't attend. I've had the creepy stalker thing happen to me and now anything requiring my legal name is a service/event/circle/platform I don't (and can't due to real safety concerns) use.
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- danellis 15y agoI'm sorry for the cliched phrasing, but doesn't that mean the creepy stalkers have won?
- zacharycohn 15y agoNot if they're not stalking her..
- bitcrunch 15y agoThat was my initial feeling, and I continued to do what I did. After several years of it now, I'm tired. I'm tired of having someone at my door, showing up where I am, joining groups and communities I'm in, and friending my co-workers and vendors, sending notes to my employers, and so on. They're doing nothing illegal these days (with one exception about four months ago), but when I surface it's always causing just one more thing to deal with. Once I decided to actually use my privacy, it was refreshing. Aaaaah, the calm. Aaaah, the amount of freedom I felt going that first stretch of months without incidents. Also, after dealing with this for just over four years it's pretty tiring to always be told that I'm the one who is doing something wrong. I wasn't necessarily a "privacy advocate" before, but understand that viewpoint more and more. It's kind of frustrating dealing with your vendor at Google who sends you a note saying "hey, I can't find you on g+ - let's use hangout" and saying something (nicely) like "yeah, I'm not on g+" and then leaving it at that. Admittedly, I get somewhat cranky at all the questioning about my choices and my behavior and it's all I can do not to respond "because g+ use is completely optional and no one is forcing me to use it, according to Eric Schmidt". I give up the interaction with my friends, vendors, co-workers and potential friends, vendors, co-workers, etc. in return for lack of harassment and stalking. I'm not super-happy about it and it's not a perfect solution but don't feel I should have to justify it. Yet I did once again (* /em headdesk*).
- BadassFractal 15y agoIf you ever get around it, you should share your stories and takeaways with the rest of the community. I've never realized that women in tech had to deal with all these issues on a daily basis. Raising awareness can only be good, right?
- bitcrunch 15y agoI'm unsure how to take your phrasing "never realized that women in tech had to deal with all these issues on a daily basis." On any other board I would assume that phrase to be argumentative and patronizing, but HN people always seem to be earnest and helpful, so I will take it on face value. Many people have that kind of issue. Most of them are women. Women exist in tech. :) It's just more frustrating and sort of ironic when you're the one working on the products. Not sure there's anything I can add that danah boyd hasn't covered on her many privacy presentations or that wasn't already "done to death" during the past "women in tech" arguments on Techcrunch, HN, etc. If there's something new or revealing that I can think of I'll share it, though! ETA: Also, I didn't bring it up during the g+ name controversy on HN because I honestly couldn't add anything new. The pros and cons of the policy are out there for everyone to read. I watched it go on and decided what was right for me, which is to not engage in that medium due to the way it works and the intentions (that is, that g+ is an "identity service").
- niels_olson 15y agoBut that's not her fault, is it. That's a societal issue. If you don't like it, work to fix it.
- hughw 15y agoFunny... that was the first thing I noticed, too.
- clone1018 15y agoJust made this so if you find any bugs let me know please.
- shanmoorthy 15y agoNice. You might wanna include a way to remove duplicates based on G+ IDs. Also some way of removing yourself from the list? Maybe use Google accounts to connect too, so you can verify the profile owners and don't have to ask for an email addy?
- js4all 15y agoGreat idea, but how is this made into a circle?
- clone1018 15y agoI'll see what I can do. The problem with just dumping the emails out to people, is it not only gives spam bots a giant list of actual emails, but would allow someone here to pitch their startup to xxx number of people instantly.
- udp 15y agoYou could have people add a code to their HN profile in order to receive the list (and perhaps require X karma).
- codesuela 15y agoall profile links are broken (opera mobile) edit: this must be one of the issue the opera devs complained about a while ago
- scottm01 15y agoMuch nicer, thanks. I've just shared a circle (to that circle) of everyone listed as of a few minutes ago.
- DanielBMarkham 15y agoCould somebody explain to me how to use this? I'm assuming if I wanted to make my own HN circle I'd have to click on each profile and then add?
- werdnanoslen 15y agoyes
- clone1018 15y agoThat's it at the moment, if anyone knows a better method (while still keeping it secure), let me know.
- instakill 15y agoThis is one way. Another way is anyone that has over 100 HN people in their circle can share the circle publicly and post the link here, ala: https://plus.google.com/100400925087503963196/posts/GugsHSGbtQd https://plus.google.com/100400925087503963196/posts/GugsHSGb...
- Achshar 15y agoWait, for a n00b like me can someone explain what is this? My best guess is that its a list of HNers who are on google+? if thats true then what is the use of this? almost every HN reader would have a google profile.
- leejw00t354 15y agoSo people on HN can share and view content with each other and make like minded friends.
- Achshar 15y agoThanks! And there is a FAQ page there now. It answers that :)
- navs 15y agoFine use of Twitter Bootstrap. I'd like to make a feature request. Please add a field for HN username/profile so I can better stalk my new friends :)
- b1ind 15y agoGreat (and speedy) work. No bugs as far as I can tell.
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- citricsquid 15y agohttp://hackernewsers.com http://hackernewsers.com
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- beaumartinez 15y agoWould be cool if it included HN usernames.
- clone1018 15y agoIt now does!
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- clone1018 15y agoNo sorry, protiptoself, always test even when pushing one line :P
- Achshar 15y agoSuggestion: we should only be able to add ourselves. Google+ API. Because this will make sure only active users are added. Everyone knows celebrities like Mark Zuckerberg and Linus Torvalds. This way the list remains short and spam reduces. Like, i see people added their brand pages.
- araneae 15y agoI notice there's some random guy on there named Paul Graham. He seems confused as to why so many people have added him to their circles...
- udp 15y agoI see you've added a field for HN usernames now - maybe you should have assigned us with a key to replace existing entries.
- clone1018 15y agoYes, huge flaw in the system, what I'll do is write in a Google auth system, and send out ONE email so people can have a chance to do that, and then manage it, remove their profile, etc.
- levesque 15y agoThe problem with this kind of thing is I can add all the people listed here to circle I will call HN, but the people who get added by me will have no idea who the hell I am. They would have to check this list to verify if the guy adding them is from HN or not...
- instakill 15y agoThis problem should alleviate itself. If you add everyone in the list and someone adds you, and you hover on their profile and see that you have 5, or 10, or 15 mutual connections (usually with foreign names), you can infer that it must be someone from HN that's adding you.
- veyron 15y agoWhat exactly is the HN circle? Are you referring to each of us going through and adding the same group of people to a circle, or is it a public group?
- antimatter15 15y agoI compiled this into an actual shared circle. https://plus.google.com/116347431032639424492/posts/BGk6DaqUdgp https://plus.google.com/116347431032639424492/posts/BGk6DaqU... I scraped the site with [].slice.call(document.querySelectorAll('a[href^="/track"]'),0).map(function(e){return e.href.replace(/.*\//g,'')}) and then I use var src = ["104448221006262595331", "102308414709447205951",...]; /*insert urls from above here*/ var blah = src.map(function(e){return [["",null,e],"",[]]}); var x = new XMLHttpRequest();x.open('post','https://plus.google.com/_/socialgraph/mutate/modifymemberships/?_reqid=333888252&rt=j,true);x.setRequestHeader('content-type',"application/x-www-form-urlencoded");x.send('m=['+JSON.stringify(blah)+']&a=[[["REDACTED"]]]&r=[[]]&at=REDACTED&') To update the circle. Edit: Updated the script to reflect site changes Edit: It looks like sharing a circle doesn't include future changes. Edit: you can skip the first step and instead use http://hngp.axxim.net/home/json http://hngp.axxim.net/home/json
- clone1018 15y agoOops! Just changed the URL format for the profile to http://hngp.axxim.net/track/116007950197156995894 http://hngp.axxim.net/track/116007950197156995894 sorry! I've also updated the site to include this circle. Added a public list of the GID's http://hngp.axxim.net/home/json http://hngp.axxim.net/home/json
- sycren 15y agoAnyway to make it easier to add everyone? Does Google+ have shared circles that someone can create, maintain and update to everyone else?
- antimatter15 15y agoHopefully I can set up a cron job or something to automatically post an updated list here: https://plus.google.com/116088562611144379106/posts https://plus.google.com/116088562611144379106/posts
- antimatter15 15y agohttps://plus.google.com/106419647632534512037/posts https://plus.google.com/106419647632534512037/posts
- palebluedot 15y agoSome of the entries are obviously added by others, and not even necessarily even the right profile. For instance, Paul Graham is in the list (and in the shared circle), however it is not pg: https://plus.google.com/114939270563299965266/posts https://plus.google.com/114939270563299965266/posts
- clone1018 15y agoYes I see Mark and those, but I can't exactly prove it's NOT them, and can't two people have the same name?
- palebluedot 15y agoTrue, it is possible that two people have the same name. I guess the uptake is to just take the list with a grain of salt. And, thanks for compiling the list - even with possible errors, it is nice to have.
- Raphael 15y agoIt's a pity that Google+ is not designed for this use case. Facebook and Friendfeed have groups that people can join with no hassle.
- karpathy 15y agoExcellent idea. As a meta-comment I'd love to see a similar list made for Twitter. I'm sorry if this has already been done and I missed it.
- tokenadult 15y agoI notice that I have been missed by these attempts even though I list my Google+ profile link in my HN profile. (I added that link after an earlier attempt by another participant to show a list of HN participants.) I use the same screen name I use here at two other sites I visit fairly often (I chose the screen name to fit the first of those sites several years ago), but of course I don't know who else uses this screen name at other sites I've never visited. In most places in cyberspace, and of course on Facebook and on Google+, I use my real name. It's interesting to see which connections between differing online names are readily made by Google, by HN participants with scripts, or by educated readers, and which connections are missed.
- dools 15y agoHaha what! Is Richard Branson really a member of hacker news?!
- clone1018 15y agoI hope! Sadly there's no way to know for sure since I don't require verification :(
- ralph 15y agoThe pop-up profile bubbles disappear off the bottom of the web page for those on the bottom row.