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Sigh... the democratic world that didn't terror stamp Israel but Hezbollah seems to disagree. Sigh... The democratic world of which you speak is the same one t

by hackada 15y ago

Sigh... the democratic world that didn't terror stamp Israel but Hezbollah seems to disagree. Sigh... The democratic world of which you speak is the same one that considered Nelson Mandela a terrorist for opposing Apartheid I'm no saying here that I support the killing of any civilians, but let's not be hypocrites here, Palestinian civilians are as civilians as Israeli ones, and the conflict is not as easily divided into good ones vs bad ones as some would like.

berntb 15y ago
First, ANC got lots of support from democracies. So your "point" is wrong. Second, [Edit: even if your "point" had been correct] according to your logic Britain can never complain about other countries' human rights records since they made Turing a criminal for being homosexual? Sigh, you write bad logic in two comments from a year+ old account with just a few comments. I'll stop feeding you now. Edit: If you want to be taken seriously, comment on my arguments in the first comment. But I guess you prefer doing wild accusations about all democracies being wrong and some country being terrorist instead.
- hackada 15y ago
  In my opinion is your logic that is wrong or you don't understand what I'm talking about at all (or don't want to understand). Countries around the world use the term terrorism to suit their interests. South African government branded opponents of Apartheid terrorists (with the support of the US by the way) and the Israeli government does the same with anybody that opposes injustices committed against palestinians. And lastly lots of democracies and NGOs around the Western "democratic" world consider Israel's acts against palestinian population to be plain violations of human rights. (I comment whenever I think I have something interesting to say, if it happens to be just a few times in a year, so it be... don't see anything wrong with that)
- berntb 15y ago
  I was down voted for feeding a troll? (I pointed out errors in his claims two times, so the troll just made new accusations. I've realised it is futile and stopped.) And happy new year to everyone! I'll go prepare for the party now. Edit: Huh, no answer about down votes? Ah well... gotta go.
  - Tangaroa 15y ago
    I think you were voted down for providing facts and logic to support your disagreement with a fanatic.
    - berntb 15y ago
      Hmm... That would be better than usual, when I'm just trolled :-)
Tangaroa 15y ago
Nelson Mandela was a terrorist. He bombed stuff. He is considered a hero today by that same democratic world because he had a change of heart while he was in jail and decided that terrorism was the wrong way to change society, and he worked respectfully for equal rights from then on and achieved a peaceful end to apartheid without the massacres and thousands of dead people that a violent alternative would have caused.

by hackada 15y ago

berntb 15y ago

First, ANC got lots of support from democracies. So your "point" is wrong. Second, [Edit: even if your "point" had been correct] according to your logic Britain can never complain about other countries' human rights records since they made Turing a criminal for being homosexual? Sigh, you write bad logic in two comments from a year+ old account with just a few comments. I'll stop feeding you now. Edit: If you want to be taken seriously, comment on my arguments in the first comment. But I guess you prefer doing wild accusations about all democracies being wrong and some country being terrorist instead.

hackada 15y ago
In my opinion is your logic that is wrong or you don't understand what I'm talking about at all (or don't want to understand). Countries around the world use the term terrorism to suit their interests. South African government branded opponents of Apartheid terrorists (with the support of the US by the way) and the Israeli government does the same with anybody that opposes injustices committed against palestinians. And lastly lots of democracies and NGOs around the Western "democratic" world consider Israel's acts against palestinian population to be plain violations of human rights. (I comment whenever I think I have something interesting to say, if it happens to be just a few times in a year, so it be... don't see anything wrong with that)
berntb 15y ago
I was down voted for feeding a troll? (I pointed out errors in his claims two times, so the troll just made new accusations. I've realised it is futile and stopped.) And happy new year to everyone! I'll go prepare for the party now. Edit: Huh, no answer about down votes? Ah well... gotta go.
- Tangaroa 15y ago
  I think you were voted down for providing facts and logic to support your disagreement with a fanatic.
  - berntb 15y ago
    Hmm... That would be better than usual, when I'm just trolled :-)

Tangaroa 15y ago

Nelson Mandela was a terrorist. He bombed stuff. He is considered a hero today by that same democratic world because he had a change of heart while he was in jail and decided that terrorism was the wrong way to change society, and he worked respectfully for equal rights from then on and achieved a peaceful end to apartheid without the massacres and thousands of dead people that a violent alternative would have caused.